Jamie Lowther-Pinkerton

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What was Jamie Lowther‑Pinkerton’s early childhood like and how did his family shape him?

Gyles Brandreth 0:00
Hello again. I'm so glad you've found us, 'cause we think of this as our own enchanted place, somewhere very special. It's the world of rosebud. And it's wonderful that you're here. Welcome. Let's cue the music.
Gyles Brandreth 0:35
Hello, I'm Giles Bradruth, and this is another episode of Rosebud. If you're listening to this on the day that we drop it onto the world, it's the 25th of September, 2026. And this week, I'm sure you've noticed, there's been a lot of royal coverage in the news, much of it triggered by the publication of a book by Earl Spencer, Charles Spencer, about his sister, Diana, the late Princess of Wales. Actually, if you're intrigued by Earl Spencer. You can see and hear him in the round on an earlier episode of Rosebud, one we recorded earlier this year. They're easy to find the old episodes. You can go to our archive via our website. That's rosebudpodcast.co.uk, or you can check it out on YouTube. We have a lot of our interviews now on YouTube.
Gyles Brandreth 1:22
You simply go to YouTube, look for the Rosebud Channel, and there we are. It's fascinating actually in many ways the Earl Spencer conversation, not least because in it he talks about the challenges and traumas of his own own childhood and how they've affected the rest of his life, including his quite complicated love life. Prince Harry has been in the news this week, now back living in England, and Prince William and Catherine, of course, they've also been out and about and getting coverage on their Doing their royal duty? William and Harry, they crop up in today's episode of Rosebud, because my guest is a man called Jamie Lowther Pinkerton, a sometime soldier, now a novelist, who until twenty thirteen was William and Harry's first principal private secretary.
Gyles Brandreth 2:11
I asked him in for this week really quite by coincidence, because I've been reading a novel that he's written called Beyond the Edge of Light. And uh it's it's beautifully written. It's a Second World War novel. It's about forbidden love, Bleshley Park. But what intrigued me is that it was inspired by his own mother, and I wanted to discover more about her and about him. In some ways you might think his story is predictable, you know, he was educated at Eton and Sandhurst and he became a soldier, Irish Guards, then he joined the SAS. But he's not quite as predictable as the biography might suggest. He spent a fascinating couple of years as a query to Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother in the nineteen eighties, and
Gyles Brandreth 2:52
our conversation has lots of fun stories about her. And I think it was when he was working with her that he will first have met Prince Charles, as he then was, the Prince of Wales, because he was very close to his grandmother, Queen Elizabeth. And I think that encounter with Prince Charles now, King Charles I third, is what led to him becoming the first principal private secretary to William and Harry, helping them prepare for their role as royals, helping them set up their offices for the first time, and he was with them, I think, until twenty thirteen. I know he also helped with the arrangements surrounding William and Catherine's wedding, and then he became one of Prince George's godfathers, you know, the future King George the Seventh.
Gyles Brandreth 3:36
So actually the conversation you're about to hear includes some fascinating advice, wise advice I think, that Jamie gave to the young princes, which you might find useful for your own life. Anyway, he doesn't normally talk about his time in the SAS or All about William and Harry, but he does hear. So this is an exceptional episode of Rosebud with an unusual man, uh with an unusual story to tell. I think you'll find this quite fascinating. This is Rosebud with Jamie Lowther Pinkerton. Cue the music.
Gyles Brandreth 4:24
Now my guest today has got quite a name. Anthony James Moxon Louther Pinkerton. Well, some would say this is ridiculous. Where all these names come from?
Jamie Lowther-Pinkerton 4:36
Well, Moxon is my maternal great grandmother, who was still alive when I was a little boy, so I think it was because of that. Um and then the Louther and the Pinkerton bits joined up about sort of three generations ago, both are Anglo Irish families.

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