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Rotten Mango

Married Google Engineer Cheats With Ex, Gets Rejected, Then Kills Wife With His Bare Hands

10 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 20.396 Stephanie Soo

This is part two of the audio podcast for the case of the Google software engineers. If you haven't listened to part one, please go listen. Part one, we covered a lot of ground. There are two Google software engineers, Tony and Ivy. They're a married couple. They both immigrated from China. They went to the top school in China.

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20.676 - 45.478 Stephanie Soo

They go to UC San Diego for their master's degree in computer science. And then they both end up as Google software engineers, each making two to $300,000 a year in total compensation. They can afford a $2 million house in San Francisco. They're 20 minutes away from the Google campus. And what appears to be a very aspirational life between two 27-year-olds turns out just to be...

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45.458 - 71.163 Stephanie Soo

the worst case scenario for ivy the wife she starts going through her husband's devices and she finds a google document that he has where he is using this google doc to cheat on his wife with his ex-girlfriend his first love high school girlfriend on and off high school college girlfriend for months He even secretly meets up with her around their wedding anniversary.

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And there's messages talking about how he wished he could have married her instead, how he wanted to buy a house with her before he married Ivy and she rejected his request. So that's the only reason he married Ivy. There's all of these conversations. Ivy sees that Google document and she leaves a comment with her Google account, which reads, I hate you. I hate all of you.

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And within a few weeks, by the end of that week, She is found dead in their shared home in San Francisco. And Tony is found in a, what has been described by authorities as a catatonic state covered in his wife's blood. And he refuses to talk about what he did and why he did it until he's taken to trial, which is what we're gonna cover in part two. The whole time during Tony and Ivy's marriage,

120.08 - 132.752 Stephanie Soo

He's obsessed with the idea that she's just not good enough for him. And it's really bizarre. Like he talks to his friends about how Ivy does not make as much as him. He also talks about how Ivy doesn't make as much as some of his friends' wives.

133.092 - 149.428 Stephanie Soo

But the only reason that she's not even making as much as his friends' wives is because she moved to Google instead of staying at Amazon where she was up for that promotion. And Google engineers, they're ranked from L3 to L10. So like Ivy was an L3. Tony was an L4 engineer. L10 is the highest. Bro.

149.408 - 171.635 Stephanie Soo

Yeah, so he's not even like an L9 and she's an L3 and total comp for an L3 engineer is still probably around like $220,000 a year. L4 is around $312,000 a year. So it's not like he's making, I mean, it is a lot of money, but... But it's not enough to be like, we're just getting by. You need to make more money. It doesn't make any sense.

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A mutual friend of theirs says whenever Tony would say those things to Ivy, she would just be down. And you could tell. It's not like she would have an outburst. She never lashed out, which nobody would be upset with her if she did.

Chapter 2: What events led to Ivy's discovery of Tony's infidelity?

182.851 - 207.933 Stephanie Soo

But she just would feel really hopeless is the feeling. Ivy's friend Wong and Wong's husband know all of this. So the morning after the most uncomfortable dinner, Wong and her husband are both texting and calling both Tony and Ivy like, hey, last night was awkward, but like, are you okay? Hello? They're getting no response. And it's making Wong really uncomfortable.

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I mean, they clearly feel so uncomfortable that she's like, get up. Like, we're going to go drive to their house again and see if they're okay. So this is like the second time in less than 24 hours. They're like, I'm going to go to her house and we're going to see what's going on. When they get there, it's the same as last night.

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So Tony and Ivy's cars are parked outside in the driveway and they go to ring the doorbell. Nobody is answering. Wong is like pushing her face up against the window and she feels like she sees a figure inside, but they're not moving. So she's like. It seems like a shadow. It seems like the shadow of a person, but they're so immobile. She's like, I don't know what that is.

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242.701 - 264.356 Stephanie Soo

And I was just inside that house. I don't think that they had a random piece of furniture that looks like that in there, but she's so confused. She doesn't know what to do. And so she does something that is, I do have to note, I think a lot of traditionally Chinese people are not the quickest to call the police. I think they're not the quickest to escalate, right?

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264.716 - 282.745 Stephanie Soo

But I think that goes to show like Wong is feeling very uncomfortable. She's like, no, this is not just me seeing like a figure in the window and I'm like hallucinating. She's like, something's weird. And she's... I think the reason that, okay, this is like some nuance in context. I'm not saying that this is what I would do or you should do in this situation.

283.106 - 293.358 Stephanie Soo

But I think for these types of friend groups, when they're all in tech and they all have these very prestigious jobs, to call the police and to cause a commotion.

293.398 - 295.741 Unknown

Do you know if they're citizens or they're with some sort of visa?

295.761 - 298.344 Stephanie Soo

They're not. They're all with an HB1 visa.

298.364 - 302.569 Unknown

Right. So involving any legal system will be very complicated. Yeah.

Chapter 3: How did Ivy react to finding the Google document?

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And I thought I saw a figure, but it was very immobile. So it's not moving. So I'm like, I can't tell you it's one of them. But I feel like somebody's inside the house.

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Chapter 4: What were the circumstances surrounding Ivy's death?

345.091 - 362.205 Stephanie Soo

OK, so like why would they not open the door if somebody's inside the house? And even last night after their fight, they opened the door. So it's not like they're not going to open the door and be like, hey, why are you here? We're fighting. Don't come unannounced. At least Ivy would open the door and be like, not right now. Like, let me call you later. But nobody's opening the door.

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She calls the police. Police come. They're searching through and they're like going through the house. They're doing a sweep because it's a wellness check. So they're, you know, searching around the perimeter of the house first. They walk to the backyard and they also see a figure. So they're like, OK, something's a little strange. Let's let's break through the back door on the main floor.

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380.748 - 395.77 Stephanie Soo

Yeah, they see like movement. Oh, so they're like, okay, this is weird. Let's kick in the back door. And then they don't see that movement anymore on the first floor. They go up to the second floor and they see Tony on his knees covered in blood.

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395.75 - 417.015 Stephanie Soo

like i feel like covered is a word that gets thrown around in a lot of cases but he was like drenched in blood the whole room was drenched in blood this house was dubbed the murder house in the bay area because it that whole room the carpets the walls everything had blood splatter

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everywhere in to a degree where it almost doesn't make sense the way that the police describe it it almost seems like how can there be that much blood and he's on his knees and he is he's got his hands in the air and he's just staring at ivy's body Ivy is laying on the ground next to him and she is she has like dried matted blood all over her face.

439.886 - 464.747 Stephanie Soo

Her face is unrecognizable and it's I think the part that was the most alarming for authorities is her face is not unrecognizable through typically bullet wounds will make a face unrecognizable There's no gun involved. There's no knife involved. There's no weapon involved. Tony had punched his wife to death with his bare hands. And she's unrecognizable from the force of his punching.

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He punched her repeatedly until she died. And when she was gone and he was sure that she's dead, he continues punching her. Two months before Ivy's murder, Tony has a lunch date. at Google. Google has those cafeterias and he's going to be meeting his white rose, his ex-girlfriend, Zhang the ex-girlfriend.

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She's visiting from Seattle, which like I said, she works at Waymo and she just ended her engagement to her fiance who worked at Google DeepMind. She's technically single, But she knows that Tony is married to Ivy. She knows this. This is not like up for debate. He's not like, oh, we're separated right now. She knows that he is actively married.

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And during this Google cafeteria date where Tony works at Google.

Chapter 5: What evidence was collected at the crime scene?

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So he's like, oh, this is this is a huge. I mean, imagine a colleague kisses you on the cheek without your consent. Like, that's huge. So he starts having this paranoia and he's freaking out about it. He finally discloses it to Ivy in January. And she's like, OK, like, that's honestly my last straw. I want out. She starts digging and she finds the Google Doc.

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1324.955 - 1330.367 Unknown

So you're saying they indeed stopped talking after that trip? Yeah. Okay.

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1330.727 - 1342.693 Stephanie Soo

Or at least not in a good way. Like maybe there were messages of like, no, I hate you. I don't know. There was no affair. There was no continuous messages of what ifs.

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1343.23 - 1353.244 Unknown

That's so interesting. So Jiang came over, has some hope of maybe connecting with him again. And then after that little trip, she's like, nah, I don't want you.

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Yeah.

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But he was like, oh my gosh, she's back.

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So weird.

1358.13 - 1358.371 Unknown

Yeah.

1358.972 - 1378.476 Stephanie Soo

So he tells Ivy she finds the Google Doc. Not only did he take her to the airport, he constantly lied about it. Oh, and the Google cafeteria. She's finding out that he met her at the Google cafeteria earlier. her workplace that she didn't even want to work at. She left Amazon to work at Google for him. And she's like, what the fuck is going on?

Chapter 6: How did Tony's relationship with his ex-girlfriend affect his marriage?

1658.476 - 1674.439 Stephanie Soo

When he walks out, he has this very blank and timid body language. However, I will say that his gaze looks like he doesn't look out of it. He like his eyes look sharp. He looks like he is in a decent state. He's analyzing. He's observing. He's taking it in.

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and during the three days oh and i'm sorry i keep referencing it as a trial it's not a trial it's a preliminary hearing so it's a three-day preliminary hearing but we still get lots of testimony so we have the police that went to the house they're testifying and then you have the ex-girlfriend who's testifying and it's pretty much for the judge to determine when the formal trial if there is enough for a formal trial which there is it just hasn't been set yet

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1698.365 - 1698.966 Unknown

Oh, still?

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1699.186 - 1722.659 Stephanie Soo

Yeah. So it's still ongoing. But yeah, I mean, unless I which I think it's highly doubtful that they're going to have a successful insanity plea. I think that we can kind of predict the outcome of this case because the evidence is just so it's just so plentiful in this case that yeah. The police, they testify of what it was like going through the house, seeing him in that state.

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1722.999 - 1740.907 Stephanie Soo

I think during the trial, I would imagine that some variation of body camera footage would come out. I don't think a lot of the graphic imagery would come out, of course, and neither should it, but I think more of that would happen. The police talk about how Tony's arm was so severely swollen. It was almost purple.

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And I think that just they're not saying that as in like, oh, he also has injuries. It was a two sided fight. Like that's not what they're indicating. They're saying that that is how extreme the punches were because he kept going to the point where he is bruising up the entirety of his arm with the force of his punching.

1759.233 - 1778.447 Stephanie Soo

His left arm has some scratch marks, so there are defensive wounds that Ivy had left, but all of them are superficial. None of them would have produced really any blood that's covering him and the walls and the carpet and the door. I mean, there is blood covering every square inch of that room, really. They described how Ivy's face is completely unrecognizable.

1778.487 - 1804.29 Stephanie Soo

And Tony just had this very vacant look in his face. He was really calm when authorities asked him, what happened to your hand? And he responded coldly, I punched my wife. When? Yesterday. There was a suitcase. It's unclear. I mean, it doesn't it's unclear if he would have fled if Wong and his and her husband didn't show up. It's unclear. But there was a suitcase. It was like haphazardly packed.

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Some say that it didn't really it didn't seem like he had any thought to flee. The autopsy concluded that Ivy was killed by severe blunt force trauma to the head, resulting from repeated and brutal blows. The manner of death was obviously homicide.

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