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Roy and HG - Bludging on the Blindside

World Champ without throwing a punch

20 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

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This is an ABC podcast.

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5.418 - 19.155 HG Nelson

Hello, sports. HG Nelson with a quick update on today's bludge. Look, everybody needs a day off every so often and the bludge is no exception. So enjoy these highlights. Some new, some old. Take it away, sumpster.

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19.175 - 26.945 Mick Molloy

Ladies and gentlemen, it's time to bump. It's time to thump. It's time to bludge.

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Chapter 2: What highlights are featured in the best of Bludging on the Blind Side?

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The best of bludging on the blind side.

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32.954 - 52.363 HG Nelson

one of the biggest races of Queen Elizabeth's Stakes, won by Think It Over. And this was a daring ride by Natural Wheeler, who thought that the better going would be out wide. So about the 200 metres from the winning post, he haired off on Think It Over to the outside fence and won by a few lengths, or a couple of lengths. Wow.

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That's knowing your course, isn't it?

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54.345 - 72.508 HG Nelson

It is. He'd walked the course, obviously spoken to people who knew how the drainage worked on the new Randwick surface and so on. Well, that's a brilliant win. It was. It was the race of the century, provided the ride of the century and also gave race goers the shock of the century as the forgotten horse in the field. Yeah, right. You often say that, the bet on the forgotten horse.

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72.988 - 92.832 HG Nelson

I think it over won the race. Now, it was a bit of a... you know, cause for controversy connected with the race. Yes. I'm not going to forget that when he said, this is Rurula coming back to scale for a long time. You get it right like that and the horse does what he knew he could do. It might be my biggest win. However, he won't forget it for another reason.

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In his desperation to leave all the stars, and there were a lot of big-name horses running in this race, in his wake, Rurula broke the whip rule by striking, think it over, eight times before the 100-metre mark...

Chapter 3: What was the outcome of the Queen Elizabeth's Stakes race?

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And 20 times in total. So if I do the maths right, from the 100 metre mark in the last 100 metres, he banged it 12 times. Right. The stewards suspended Barilla for two weeks and issued the two weeks I might add starts after today, I think. Good. You know, issued a $40,000 penalty. A $40,000 fine? Mm-hmm. One of the biggest fines for excessive whip use. Wow.

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But let's face it, it was a fraction of what he earned for the ride. Oh, okay. Because it was a very rich race.

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Yeah, right. Right.

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136.085 - 155.651 HG Nelson

He said afterwards, to win on that horse for the trainer Parker, at the end, it was one of my best moments in racing. I'm very disappointed that I broke the whip rule because I'm very respectful of them. I just think it was a very big penalty and will appeal the size of it, which he subsequently did. Did he? Yeah. They knock 10 grand off it. I think he's down to 30 grand.

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Right, okay, yes.

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Now, the difficulty is here, I'm very disappointed that I broke the whip rules because I'm respectful of them. It's understood the New South Wales Jockey Association will support Murilla in his appeal against the penalty. A representative told the Herald that its members believe in the whip rules but often feel penalties were too severe. I suppose a lot of murderers feel that as well.

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Yeah. Now, the fine... So he was three over. So he was essentially fined $10,000 per... Bash. Bash.

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That's an interesting question. An interesting question. The fine was more than a third of Orilla's winning percentage, and two weeks obviously could cost him another $25,000 in rides, especially if he can't go to the carnival. Now, the stewards, Mark Van Estel said there had to be a deterrent for beaching the Rip Bull, particularly in the biggest races.

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The stewards panel reviewed the final 200 metres before issuing correct weight to see whether it would lodge a protest against Thinkadover being declared the winner because of the whip.

Chapter 4: What controversies arose from the race's outcome?

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Yes.

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And yet he believes in it.

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Well, I don't get this at all.

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He believes in the rules.

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I don't get this at all.

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There's an inconsistency in his evidence, isn't there?

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There is, my lad.

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Yes. There is, my lad.

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Now, do you know... He's a serial. Well... Can we use the word serial? Yeah. A recidivist.

Chapter 5: What challenges did Cam face with media training?

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A bit dull?

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Yeah, you don't... Yeah, I get that.

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3136.342 - 3137.423 HG Nelson

Yeah, more media training.

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Yeah, more media training required. Yeah, yeah. Because you've got to... See, with Cam, it was difficult to get Cam to be his natural self, you know, when the red light was on and the camera was on him. But I think he's made that adjustment now and I think Cam is now the Cam we all... We're hoping to see, you know, funny, knockabout. Australian.

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3160.188 - 3178.289 HG Nelson

Aussie champion. That's right, a very pro-Queensland. Now, can I suggest that a person with a lot of media training who we've discussed at length today could make an ideal guest on some of these programs because he would bring a lively view to the table.

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Are you talking about our troubled driver? Yeah, why haven't the shows reached out to Hopper?

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Because it'll be Gould-esque in the controversy states.

Chapter 6: Who is suggested as a potential guest and why?

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Imagine somebody brave enough to say, you know, like Matty Johnson, you know, Nathan Hindmarsh and Fletch, and tonight we've got a special guest, it's the bloke who can't drive himself. Cheers all around. I suppose so. But he'd find dickheads in the audience, wouldn't he?

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Well, he'd find that a dickhead question. He doesn't want people talking about the fact he can't drive. Eh? If Hindy mentioned that to him, he'd punch Hindy in the head. And there wouldn't be a magistrate in the country who'd disagree with him.

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3220.878 - 3237.317 Mick Molloy

Would there? Got your ear cocked for a new bit? The best of Roy and HG. Blindsiders, at the end of the day, imagine slipping between smoother silk sheets made from recycled rugby league jumpers. If you're quick.

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3237.297 - 3260.773 Mick Molloy

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A while ago, we broke a story about how rugby league was collapsing in the bush.

3268.766 - 3269.127 Trevor Shand

Yes.

3269.407 - 3285.052 HG Nelson

Now... That was our fear, wasn't it? It was. It was. And the three things that were not being done were obviously encouraging people to play and when it came to game days, blowing up the jumping castle seemed to be a job that was swerved past, putting on the pie warmer and filling the urn.

3285.193 - 3285.353 Kate Cross

Yeah.

Chapter 7: What are the concerns about rugby league in rural areas?

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Now, there's good news and bad news. Right. Some writers think that... Rugby league in the country, the bush, is worse than ever, is just collapsing.

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These are the doomsayers.

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3296.43 - 3311.753 HG Nelson

The doomsayers because, you know, the AFL's taking over and people want to play, you know, the world game, you know, what some people call soccer, the world game, you know, go and play for Arsenal, et cetera, like all our Matildas and so on. Others are more...

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encouraged by the return of many first-grade players, ticketed players, back to their home communities and encouraging people in the area to get involved in rugby league.

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I like the sound of this, HG.

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So you and I came up with a four-point plan in the worst of this.

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Mm-hmm.

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you know, collapse the rugby league. Yep. We wanted targeted immigration. That's right. That would get people coming to Australia to play rugby league. To play rugby league, yes. And stay in the area. Yep. The grey nomads.

Chapter 8: How is the local rugby league community being revitalized?

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Yes. To help out. Help out, running the line, doing the jumping castle, et cetera. And government handouts or, you know, some sort of tax relief. Yes. For people who wanted to go into the areas. And finally, to ask the players who returned to help younger people get their driver's licence.

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3356.401 - 3356.882 Trevor Shand

That's right.

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3356.902 - 3358.925 HG Nelson

Now, this appears to have been borne fruit.

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3358.945 - 3359.205 Trevor Shand

Good.

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3359.759 - 3377.952 HG Nelson

So if you go and watch a game of local football, this is the Murdoch Press, up in the Northern Rivers, there's a fair chance you might recognise a few names. Good. From balm-storing props to flashy wingers to crafty halves, you'll find a host of former NRL players running around in the local competition, the NRRRAL.

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Good.

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While some deservedly earn a living for their services, the motivation for others is simply to give back to the bush.

3386.621 - 3387.802 Trevor Shand

Yes. Good.

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Give back to the bush. One of those doing just that is former Cronulla and Gold Coast Titans forward Luke Douglas. Oh, yeah. Who has led the remarkable revival in the junior club, the Lower Clarence Magpies, since taking over as, wait for it, Captain Coach.

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