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1064 AirPR Says "Growing Fast" but won't share revenue #'s, are they?
23 Jun 2018
Chapter 1: What is AirPR and how does it measure PR impact?
This is the Top Entrepreneurs Podcast, where founders share how they started their companies and got filthy rich or crash and burn. Each episode features revenue numbers, customer counts, and other insider information that creates business news headlines. We went from a couple hundred thousand dollars to 2.7 million. I had no money when I started the company.
It was $160 million, which is the size of many IPOs. We're a bit strapped. We have like 22,000 customers. With over 5 million downloads in a very short amount of time, major outlets like Inc. are calling us the fastest growing business show on iTunes. I'm your host, Nathan Latka, and here's today's episode. Hello, everyone. My guest today is Sharam Fladgermerser.
He's the CEO and founder of a company called AirPR, a technology solution to measure the impact of PR. He was an EIR at Shasta Ventures, focused on consumer internet and the social graph. Before joining, Sharam was a senior associate at Sierra Ventures, focused on consumer internet, enterprise software like cloud computing and virtualization, and mobile.
He served on the board as Makara, which sold to Red Hat, and Touch Commerce, which sold to Nuance. All right, Sharam, are you ready to take us to the top? Oh, let's rock. All right. You've been about around the block a few times. What do you like more, the VC stuff or doing your own thing?
Uh, both have their, uh, interesting parts. It just kind of depends on which stage your life you, uh, you're at. VC is unbelievable. You get some of those brilliant entrepreneurs pitching you on ideas you would never have think of, never thought of. But, uh, um, it also is a, is a, I feel a job that, uh, um, maybe is a better fit later in life. Um,
when you've had enough experience where you're, as opposed to the startup world where you're working 120 hour weeks, you just don't have 120 hour weeks in BC world. So if you're ever going to take a shot at a startup, do it when you're younger. BC seems like a better job after you've been successful doing a couple of companies.
All right. Tell us about AirPR. What's the business model and what do you do?
AirPR is a platform to measure the impact of public relations for the first time and to help drive more of the right press, if you will. Uh, I'm the CEO and co-founder of the company. So I do a lot of things and, uh, fill, fill the gaps where, uh, where I find them in the company.
And what's the business model is a monthly recurring pay as you go or some other model.
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Chapter 2: What is the business model of AirPR?
So walk us through how you've scaled the company. So back when you released the first product back in 2013, what's been the number one way you've acquired customers?
Yeah, so generally it's been word of mouth and our own PR efforts, probably unsurprisingly. We've had fairly limited marketing back then. Much more recently, though, we're having more of a marketing presence.
We threw our first conference last year with Jeffrey Moore as one of the keynote speakers, author of Crossing the Chasm, as well as Andy Cunningham, who was the first PR person for Steve Jobs and has launched a variety of different categories in the industry recently. Um, so we're starting to spend more of our effort on marketing now.
Uh, but historically when we first launched, it was a lot of, uh, uh, word of mouth and introductions.
What are you doing? So when people say measure their PR, I mean, how are you actually doing that? How are you closing the loop on that? Which ultimately then backs up the value of why people pay you, right? Cause they can see the attribution and it validates some things internally.
Sorry, can you repeat the question?
The question is how specifically are you tying a value to a mention in a press article and having it be substantive to validate people paying you anything at all?
Yeah. So what we're able to do is we can tie into how many people after having read an article will, for example, come to Salesforce's website. after reading that article about Mark Benioff or about Salesforce and then ultimately go from there to signing up for a demo of the marketing cloud or applying for a job.
And so being able to do that in the B2B side or on the B2C side all the way down to did someone sign up for a particular product or purchase a particular product. So we tie it from the original article that the PR helped drive down to an action or an engagement that matters.
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Chapter 3: How does AirPR determine its pricing structure?
Ah, let's say, uh, getting to aha by Andy Cunningham. Number two, is there a CEO you're following or studying right now?
CEO that I'm following or studying right now? I would say Jay Fulcher.
I believe too. He's on your board, right? Yeah. Yeah. Jay Fulcher. Uh, number three, uh, is there a favorite besides your own? What's your favorite online tool for growing the business? Um, besides ours, I'm a fan of HubSpot. Okay. Number three, how many hours of sleep do you get every night? Eight. And what's your situation? Married, single, you have kiddos? I am now married. Now married. Good.
And no kids yet? No kids. All right. And how old are you, Sharon? I'm 35. All right. Last question. Take us back 15 years. What do you wish your 20 year old self knew?
Uh, my 20 year old self knew, let's see. I'd say probably the only difference is I would probably have pinged a couple CEOs that I would have no right to ping and ask them for a chief of staff job working for me.
There you guys have it from Sherm. He would have hunted for some of those bigger CEOs earlier and maybe asked for a chief of staff position just to learn faster. He launched AirPR back in 2010. 10 raised caught four or five million bucks and then sold the marketplace in 2015, despite the analytics product doing, you know, not a lot of revenue yet. He has since scaled that.
He has more than 100 customers on that platform paying more than 50 grand a year. So you can obviously do the math at a minimum doing you. Listen, you can give me a higher number, but that's the minimum you gave me. That's what I have to use. No, it's definitely higher than that. Sharon, you're welcome to give me a higher minimum, but that's what you're giving me as a minimum to use.
Do you want to give me a higher number?
Well, let's put it this way. I wouldn't put out, and again, I'm not as familiar with your podcast, but I wouldn't promote sort of a revenue number of a company if it's below our actual number. So it's probably better to just not say a revenue number, but you can let people sort of figure that out on their own.
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