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1158 School teacher developers software, other teachers buy it, $3k MRR

25 Sep 2018

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Chapter 1: What inspired the development of the Blue Rabbit software?

0.031 - 18.982 Nathan Latka

Coming from a high school teacher of over eight years in Mexico City, he has now launched software called Blue Rabbit to gamify the classroom. His peers and himself are using it a lot in their rooms, launched in 2017. Now has two schools paying for the software, doing about three grand per month in total, hoping to scale to 10 grand per month in total by the end here of 2018.

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19.803 - 47.575 Nathan Latka

They're spending about five grand to acquire these new customers with a salesperson commission model. They have a team of seven. This is the Top Entrepreneurs Podcast, where founders share how they started their companies and got filthy rich or crash and burn. Each episode features revenue numbers, customer counts, and other insider information that creates business news headlines.

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47.756 - 50.862 Nathan Latka

We went from a couple hundred thousand dollars to 2.7 million.

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51.102 - 56.091 Bernardo Letaif

I had no money when I started the company. It was $160 million, which is the size of many IPOs.

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Chapter 2: How does Blue Rabbit help gamify classroom experiences?

56.552 - 82.134 Nathan Latka

We're a bit strapped. We have like 22,000 customers. With over 5 million downloads in a very short amount of time, major outlets like Inc. are calling us the fastest growing business show on iTunes. I'm your host, Nathan Latka, and here's today's episode. Hello, everyone. My guest today is Bernardo Letaif. He is a high school teacher, or he was for over eight years.

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82.214 - 88.285 Nathan Latka

And he's an entrepreneur and web design for 15 and gamification expert for eight years. Three is an international expert today.

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Chapter 3: What is the current revenue model for Blue Rabbit?

88.325 - 97.521 Nathan Latka

He's focused on his company, Blue Rabbit. Bernardo, are you ready to take us to the top? Yes. Okay, very good. Okay, so tell us about the company. What do you do? And how do you make money?

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98.277 - 106.972 Bernardo Letaif

Okay, so what we do is that we developed a platform called Blue Rabbit, and we sell it to schools so that they can gamify the classes or the whole school all together.

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107.012 - 115.146 Nathan Latka

So we can actually track what players are interested and motivated to do. Okay, and is this a software as a service model?

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Chapter 4: How is the customer acquisition cost structured for Blue Rabbit?

115.186 - 117.45 Nathan Latka

These schools are paying monthly recurring fees?

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117.852 - 130.587 Bernardo Letaif

Basically, it's a software itself. You get a WordPress version or you can get an independent version. You install it and you work with it. It's not a software service. It's just a plain cloud software, cloud-based software.

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130.607 - 133.491 Nathan Latka

So they're paying like a one-time fee for a license or something?

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134.132 - 135.233 Bernardo Letaif

No, they pay a monthly fee.

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135.513 - 139.878 Nathan Latka

Okay, so it is a software-as-a-service model. Well, yeah.

Chapter 5: What strategies are being used to scale Blue Rabbit's customer base?

139.899 - 144.484 Nathan Latka

Yeah, okay. Yeah, okay. I mean, are you seeing healthy economics? Tell me about your churn.

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145.156 - 155.63 Bernardo Letaif

Uh, well this year, uh, we just managed to get, we started up, uh, 2017, uh, we managed to get something around $10,000, but we're looking forward to a 100,000, uh, by the end of this year.

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156.011 - 162.099 Nathan Latka

Okay. So just to be clear at the end of what the, right at the beginning of 2017, you were doing $10,000 a month in revenue.

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163.3 - 171.872 Bernardo Letaif

No, by the, by the beginning of 17, we were doing nothing. By the end of it, we made only $10,000.

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172.021 - 175.167 Nathan Latka

Okay, so what are you at today?

Chapter 6: What challenges does Blue Rabbit face in terms of team compensation?

175.247 - 191.717 Nathan Latka

What did you do last month? Around $3,000. Okay, around $3,000. And how are you scaling this up? I mean, how are you finding new customers to sign up?

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192.963 - 203.733 Bernardo Letaif

Uh, both, uh, well, we're having an online campaign and we're also having, uh, we have sales, uh, salespeople going to schools, uh, selling the software directly. Okay.

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203.753 - 204.874 Nathan Latka

How many people are on your team today?

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206.456 - 208.158 Bernardo Letaif

Uh, that's seven people right now.

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208.418 - 208.558 Nathan Latka

Okay.

Chapter 7: How does Blue Rabbit plan to grow its user base in the future?

208.578 - 210.92 Nathan Latka

And how are you paying them if you're only making three grand a month?

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212.562 - 221.13 Bernardo Letaif

Oh, it's based on the, uh, for salesmen is based on commission. Uh, we got some funding from, uh, capitalist, uh, uh,

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221.431 - 250.932 Nathan Latka

one month ago how much have you raised one month ago how much have you raised 5 000. okay 25 000 and was that that was just a convertible note that was what what kind of financing was that was a convertible note or an equity round it's like an equity round yeah 10 50 we gave away 15 from uh for 25 000. okay so so that's a valuation of what somewhere around 150 000 dollars Yeah, right now, yes.

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250.992 - 264.479 Nathan Latka

Okay, so just to summarize, you have seven people on your team. They're all commission-based. You're doing $3,000 a month in revenue right now. At the beginning, you just launched this about a year ago, so it's all growth at this point. You raised $25,000, priced around about 15% of the company.

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Chapter 8: What personal insights does the guest share about entrepreneurship?

264.82 - 266.223 Nathan Latka

How many customers are you serving today?

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267.946 - 290.298 Bernardo Letaif

Right now, we have... Two paint schools, 4,000 registered users, and we're looking forward to 150,000 growth due to a project we opened with. It's called the Engaging Project with the Erasmus Foundation in Europe. So we're looking forward to 150,000 growth in the next couple of months.

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290.378 - 292.782 Nathan Latka

What does that mean, 150,000 growth? Growth of what?

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293.285 - 298.357 Bernardo Letaif

growth of 150,000 registered players in the platform.

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298.737 - 303.609 Nathan Latka

Okay. But registered players just increases your cost structure. It doesn't necessarily drive you more revenue, right?

304.591 - 319.47 Bernardo Letaif

Yeah. In this case, yeah, but... Since we're actually installed on their servers, it won't raise our cost. They're just like getting the license and they're just working with it so they can put their own courses through Blue Rabbit. So it does not increase our cost at all.

319.851 - 327.527 Nathan Latka

Okay. How do you convert this huge free user base into actual more revenue for the company?

328.165 - 350.105 Bernardo Letaif

Right now, it helped us as marketing. We won an award in November thanks to this because people believed in the project. We're using it as a marketing push so we can get more paying schools through this huge advantage by selling that. We've got 150,000 European students getting it.

350.125 - 366.458 Nathan Latka

Got it. Okay, but just to be clear, right now, Bernardo, you have two paying schools that make up three grand. So they each pay about $1,500 a month for three grand total. Yes, more or less. Okay, got it. And what year did you launch the company in? Sorry, what? What year did you launch the company in?

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