SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
1211 Finally an easy way for teams to edit videos, creative, doing $40k in MRR
17 Nov 2018
Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
start a business earlier, negotiate harder. He saw this problem internally when he was doing marketing and sales inside of kind of agencies and such, where it was very hard to collaborate on video edits and document edits, things like that.
Chapter 2: What problem did Niklas identify in content collaboration?
So he launched FileStage with one of his friends back in 2015, bootstrapped the company, then raised $600,000. They now have 400 customers paying on average a hundred bucks a month. So about 40 grand in monthly recurring revenue. That's up from five grand in MRR just about a year ago.
They've got 2% to 3% net revenue churn monthly in their enterprise cohorts, $400 tax, so a four-month payback period. Lifetime value is north of $2,000, again, helping solve a very real problem with their team of 11 based between Germany and other remote locations. This is the Top Entrepreneurs Podcast, where founders share how they started their companies and got filthy rich or crash and burn.
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Chapter 3: How did Niklas bootstrap Filestage to success?
We went from a couple of hundred thousand dollars to 2.7 million.
I had no money when I started the company.
It was $160 million, which is the size of any IPOs. We're a bit strapped. We have like 22,000 customers. With over 5 million downloads in a very short amount of time, major outlets like Inc. are calling us the fastest growing business show on iTunes. I'm your host, Nathan Latka, and here's today's episode. Hello, everyone. My guest today is Nicholas Dorn.
Chapter 4: What growth metrics is Filestage currently achieving?
He's the co-founder of the SaaS company Filestage, which is a solution web application that makes it easy to share, comment, and approve videos, designs, and documents, allowing customers and colleagues to mark change requests directly online in the file. This helps to avoid long feedback rounds via email.
Before that company, he used to work in different companies around marketing, advertising, and e-commerce. In that time, he experienced how time-consuming and painful the content review process could be, especially when done via email. That's what led him to Filestage. Nicholas, are you ready to take us to the top? Yeah, definitely. This is definitely a problem.
I think as people create more of their own content, everyone goes back and forth via email with their designers for changes and things like that. And it is scary bad sometimes.
Chapter 5: What unique features does Filestage offer its users?
So tell us what you guys do and how you make money.
Yes. As you introduced myself, I used to work in marketing and that's how we started. And main problem we had back then was, yes, we produce content like amazing videos, designs, flyers, brochures, everything like that. And actually, it was sent via email. And in the end, you had to send an email back and forth, 40 emails for just one minute of video. And everybody was driving nuts, actually.
And we said, okay, why isn't there a good tool, an efficient process, a nice workflow? And that's how we started Fistage. And today, Fistage, you can imagine a bit like a Dropbox. So it's super easy and intuitive to use. It's a web application. So you can basically just drag and drop your files into Fistage. Then you can share a link, for example, to your video you just dropped there.
And then you can discuss all together your video and give feedback within the video just in the file. And you can approve it, accept it, and so on.
And so customers today, I mean, is this a pure play SaaS company? And if so, what are they paying to you on month per average?
Yes, it's a pure SaaS company. And we started actually pretty small. So we started with freelancers, small agencies and so on. And then we grew from there to bigger agencies, to marketing departments. At the moment, the typical smaller agency is paying around $100 a month. And the enterprise is paying more than its custom plans.
If you took just an average, just to avoid every customer cohort, is $100 a month a fair average or is it a bit higher?
I would say overall it's a fair average because we also have smaller ones, but yes, we also have these peaks.
Great. And take me back to day one. So what year did you launch the company in? Sorry?
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Chapter 6: How does Filestage acquire new customers?
What year did you launch the company in? When year? What year did you launch the company? Okay, sorry.
In 2015.
2015. And I mean, where was your head at that point? You were doing a lot of professional services work, marketing, advertising, e-commerce stuff. Or did you quit a full-time job to jump into this?
Yeah, basically it was right after my master's. So I used to work before, then I did another master's in marketing. And that's where I met the connection with my co-founder. And from this, we started both. So he has like a background in advertising and the film industry. And he always had this problem himself. So we were connected like at this moment and we said, OK, we started.
Interesting. OK, so 2015. And then what have you scaled to today in terms of total customers?
We have a customer base of around 400 paying customers, so teams. OK. And then they're like 60, 70, 80,000 users. So people that review and work with 5Stage.
That's great. So 400 customers at $100 ARPU, is it fair to say you guys are somewhere around 40 grand a month right now in revenue? More or less, yeah. Okay, more or less. And give me a sense of growth rate since you're still kind of early, but take me back a year ago. What were you doing a year ago?
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Chapter 7: What challenges does Filestage face with churn rates?
A year ago, we were like, I don't know, making maybe... 5,000 MRRs.
So what's driven most of that growth? How are you getting new customers?
So main acquisition channels at the moment are really cold mailing, so automatic cold mailings. And the other thing is really getting referrals from customers, really what works well for us. How do you incentivize that?
How do you drive that behavior?
At the moment, we have one simple thing actually. We just say, hey, if you bring us a new customer, you get one big bottle of champagne from us. And so far, it worked pretty fine. So actually, people are just like, hey, we like you so much. We just recommend you. It's fine. We don't need incentives. But for sure, we're working on something to push this even more.
How many bottles of champagne have you shipped?
around 20 maybe 20 okay so pretty good and so when you look at kind of your fully weighted customer acquisition costs what would you say your CAC is what's your cost to acquire these customers all in um so actually we have like at the moment we have zero marketing spendings at external costs so no Facebook advertising anything like that so zero here and then we have internal costs and this is like we have two two full-time people doing marketing for us
And then it's me in sales and another person in sales.
Yeah. So when you add up like, you know, all the salaries of people related to sales, plus the champagne you're sending out, right. Plus any referral fees or kickbacks. I mean, and then you divide that into the number of new customers you guys land per month. I mean, what is your CAC right now? Fully weighted.
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Chapter 8: How does Niklas define customer lifetime value?
So we are really like bootstrapped and lean here. I was just going to say that.
So you're totally bootstrapped right now, right?
Almost. So we landed like a German investor last year, which enabled us to really grow the team. And before we were just like the three founders and a couple of interns. And this way we really could build like the team. And yeah, it's a German investor, but it was not like a really large investor. How much did you raise? Um, 600 K. Okay.
I mean, that's still a pretty healthy amount. So 600 raised. And then what's the team size today?
Um, around 11 people. Okay. Full time. And then a couple of other people. Yeah.
And, and you said four of you, two of them are full time on sales plus you and one other person. So for our kind of sales breakdown, the rest of the rest engineers. Yes.
Okay. So it's like, um, one person that is half like sales and half customer success. Then five people in development, then we have one in UX.
I, like you guys, have never been able to find a project management tool that I love. You know, my blog writers like one thing, my developers like one thing, my designers like a different thing, and it's so difficult to get them all on the same page. So when I had Roy Mann, the CEO of Monday.com on the show, I was pleasantly surprised at what he told me regarding his traction and his growth.
And I said, maybe I should try this thing. So we now use monday.com. I started with the magazine. We've launched the Latka magazine, solely dedicated to SaaS founders. It's the only magazine focused on SaaS. And my content writers and my designers worked beautifully together on that project using monday.com for project management. I then said, well, let me give it a real test.
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