SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
1440 He's Flat at $25k/mo So He's Making This 1 Big Change
04 Jul 2019
Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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launched in 2013 serving about 350 customers with online marketing marketing automation specifically with wordpress they're doing about 25 grand per month in revenue they're flat year over year so they're making a major change moving to essentially a non-profit model where they'll take corporate donations and grants to keep growing the business he's got a few of them lined up we'll see how that transition goes he's got a team of nine people in denver building again the sas company the market automation company and running his agency which services the same demographic
This is the Top Entrepreneurs Podcast, where founders share how they started their companies and got filthy rich or crash and burn. Each episode features revenue numbers, customer counts, and other insider information that creates business news headlines. We went from a couple of hundred thousand dollars to 2.7 million. I had no money when I started the company.
It was $160 million, which is the size of many IPOs. We're a bit strapped. We have like 22,000 customers. With over 5 million downloads in a very short amount of time, major outlets like Inc. are calling us the fastest growing business show on iTunes. I'm your host, Nathan Latka, and here's today's episode. Hello, everybody. My guest today is Eric Wolff.
He cooks 30 minute meals in 15 and he runs a five minute mile faster than you. So with over a quarter century of experience gathered over the last 20 years, he's decided marketing should be more efficient too. As the founder of Orbiter, he's known as a trailblazer in small business sales and marketing automation. Eric, are you ready to take us to the top? We're going straight to the top.
Awesome, man. All right. This is a very crowded space. SMB Marketing Automation. Tell me where you play, what you do and what's your revenue model. How do you make money?
Well, so first of all, how we make money currently is based on monthly subscriptions, just like everybody else. We're going to have a big announcement in a few weeks that's actually going to completely change that or change a lot of it, which we're very excited about. But I can't tease that too much right now. But yeah.
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Chapter 2: How did the guest's company transition to a nonprofit model?
$99 per month or $1,000 per year. I love that.
Simple pricing. And when did you launch the company? What year?
2013 was our first public launch. We were in beta for about a year before that.
Get me in your head there. In that year, I mean, what was going on? Did you just leave corporate life or where were you thinking?
Well, actually, where I was thinking is that I ran and still also run a digital marketing agency and our clients very much wanted to be able to do more in the realm of automation. They didn't have $1,000 a month to spend on software. And so we started building tools essentially for our customers. We addressed what they were saying, hey, this is what we want.
And we wanted to all work in WordPress because we're doing everything in WordPress. And so really that was the genesis of the software.
And so from that, is that agency still running today? Absolutely. Why not shut that down and go all in on the software?
Um, you know, it's, it's a, um, it's a different way of helping people. And so we, we really, um, and there were, there was a time that I really thought about going all in on the software, but as I headed in that direction, I realized that, you know, I, I missed the ability to, to work really closely with the clients and, and it was also taking away
one of the key ways that we learn, which is by actually solving problems. And so we decided to keep, you know, to sort of keep going down both paths and have the one side where we help folks and the other side where we make our tools available for anyone who wants to use them. And very often it ends up being other agencies.
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Chapter 3: What revenue model does the guest currently use?
But I mean, are we talking like a hundred grand or like a million grand? What's the general size here?
Uh, we're going to be getting access to at least a hundred grand, um, off the bat. And then we're going to be, and we're going to be able to continue to raise money is, is, is the great thing is, is we had a, um, we had a model that we were, that we were.
looking at in the for-profit realm that would allow us to do something like this through sponsorships and things like that but it changes who our customers are if if you become if you if you start getting corporate sponsorships they start expecting something and our customers stop being the people that are using our tools and interacting with us and they start being folks who are
They're corporates, but didn't you just say you're going to get donations from corporates, so you're still going to be beholden to them?
Not in the same way because they're not going to be a customer. They're going to be making a donation.
Yeah, and they're going to say, if I make this donation, you've got to do X, Y, and Z. I mean, people don't just make donations to make donations. They have expectations.
Correct, but it's not going to be an advertising sort of play where they're going to say, hey, we're going to make this donation and we're going to expect... you know, X conversion rate on leads, they're going to say, we were going to make this donation and we expect our logo to be on your website. Yeah. It's a completely different, it's a completely different game. How big is the agency?
We're running out of time. How big is the agency side of your business?
Uh, we have an agent, we have a boutique agency. We work with small and midsize businesses and we're about six people.
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