SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
1567 How New Employee Feedback Tool Plans to Monetize
08 Nov 2019
Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
direct suggest a new idea for employee suggestions, just entering kind of pre-launch phase, still pre-revenue with a couple of pilots going on. Hopefully those convert into paid accounts here shortly as they work towards and move towards adding more and more of their employees to the base. Hello, everybody. My guest today is Riley Moore.
He's the 24-year-old CEO of RM4Tech, a family-owned, family-run software company. Using his mix of technical and business influences to materialize his creative vision, their first product is DirectSuggest, the suggestion box reimagined. He has over 19,000 followers on LinkedIn and has spoken at several events. Riley, are you ready to take us to the top?
Yes, I'm excited.
Thank you for having me, Nathan. You bet, man. All right, DirectSuggest. So first off, it is a SaaS company, right? Yes, it is. Okay, and what's the company do?
So we're the suggestion box reimagined. So getting suggestions from your employees is something that's been found invaluable. And what we do is we connect decision makers directly to employees so their suggestions have the assurance that they arrive and do not get lost.
So one of the big issues with a suggestion box, whether it's digital or not, is are decision makers seeing the suggestions and are they acting on them? So we've created a system with a delegation process to assure that suggestions arrived at the right place. And we also have things to help employee engagement, such as commenting and ranking. We have anonymous suggestions left in there as well.
We're really focused on helping innovation and employee engagement.
That's great. And so who's paying for this, the employer or the employees?
The employer pays. So it's a freemium model. It's free for companies with no more than 50 employees. And then it's no more than 50 cents per employee per month. As the company size increases, the amount they pay per employee is cheaper and we cap it $10,000 per month.
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Chapter 2: How does DirectSuggest improve employee feedback?
Okay.
So we do revenue today.
Yes, sir. Okay. No revenue. That's great. And then when did you launch? Well, when did you launch the company as a whole?
So we launched in January of 2018. Okay.
So just bootstrapped. That's great. So how, I mean, how have you paid your bills?
So we've paid our bills just on our own, our own money. Um, I'm currently splitting time between Santa Barbara Sacramento. We're family owned family runs. So it's both my parents, my brother and I, so we're all figuring out ways to pay the bills, get by and then grow this company all the way up.
Okay. So you launched January. So you've been in market for kind of 10, 11 months. Why isn't anybody paying yet?
Uh, so currently we've just been going through the process of, of bootstrapping and going through a bootstrapped marketing process. We want to go with a really organic marketing process. So building connections, Through different things like events, through blogging, through just connections that you make, gradually build this organic awareness rather than spending lots of money.
So the awareness has taken a little bit longer to build and we started getting companies really signing up in October this month or this year. So Nokia, Drive AI, Johnny Morris' Wonders of Wildlife Museum, they all signed up in October. We started with LinkedIn marketing. We've done Twitter. We've done Facebook. We've partnered with- What do you mean you've done these?
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Chapter 3: Who pays for the DirectSuggest service, employers or employees?
Right. I mean, there has to be activation metrics like they sign up at least 10 employees. The employees give at least three reports on like the employer.
Chapter 4: What pricing model does DirectSuggest use?
The employer actually takes advantage of those three reports to get value. I mean, like try and be more specific for me here. What do you have to do from an action perspective to make sure these guys sign up at the end?
Yeah, so we have a whole onboarding process we deal with. So we have regular emails that we send. We have the intro email. We have emails that we send throughout the process that helps them either with setting up departments and categories, helping sign up more employees, bring more employees into the system. We'd send them blogs.
We go through a customer onboarding process where we're constantly monitoring them. We're constantly interacting to make sure if they need any sort of help to see how they're doing. So far, all the companies, they successfully have signed up within one day and have had suggestions already going. So suggestions and votes and comments as well.
How many suggestions in the first day typically?
So Nokia, they had one. Johnny Morris had a couple and Drive had one. And what do they do with those?
Once they get them, what's the company do with them?
So with the direct suggest, once an employee leaves a suggestion, It's left with the gatekeeper. A gatekeeper oversees suggestions for specific departments or categories in specific regions or locations. From there, the gatekeeper can respond to the employee who made the suggestion. So it's not anonymous. They can forward it along to other decision makers. There's an anonymous option.
So the organization, if they want to allow anonymous suggestions, they can allow for that. And then when an employee makes a suggestion, there's a checkbox that they can leave it anonymous that way. They can't tell which employee left it. They will see it, though, based off of the department or category that they're overseeing.
See, I think the challenge of this is the attribution loop, right? So what is the actual... Okay, when Facebook launched, they knew they had to get seven friends to a new user in the first week for you to be sticky, right? Then you're going to stick. Expensify, right? A B2B SaaS company.
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Chapter 5: What challenges does the company face in acquiring paying customers?
And so the size of employees, the amount of employees that are signing up, that's not necessarily important for us with the trial process. They might just go in one department, focus on one department. We're really focused on the engagement that comes from our solution. And then also the actions that are coming from that within the organizations that are using it.
Okay. So I mean, so how do you, how many suggestions, when did Nokia launch one month, October? Yes. How many suggestions have they processed to date? They have a handful. Okay. Across how, and how many employees does Nokia have?
They have 17 people in there right now.
Okay. 17 people and a handful of suggestions. So like, how do you know if that's good or bad? Are they likely, if you told them today you have to start paying, would they pay? Yes. So why not? Why don't you ask them to pay?
Well, we haven't, we aren't going to just tell them you pay for our software now. We're going through the process of letting them see if this is a solution that they want to use. And then from there, they can make the decision on if they want to bring it in. We're so confident that we're providing a solution that's going to take companies and help them with efficiency, engagement.
Riley, sorry, but so test that put up like, why not put up the paywall? You've been doing this now for 10, 11 months. Why not? If you have confidence in that, see, I don't think you have confidence in that. By the way, that's why I'm pushing here. If the paywall and see if they pay.
Well, can you repeat that, please? I didn't catch the end.
Yeah. And I'm just saying, why don't you put up the paywall and see if they pay? If you have confidence in there that you're adding value, test it, see if they pay.
What do you mean by testing and see if they pay? Put up a paywall, ask them to pay. Yeah, we we just we we don't want to be from a culture standpoint, from arm for tech, from how we stand with our family owned family run business. We don't want to be pushy. We wanna provide solutions that are affordable and easy to use and have the proof within our solution.
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Chapter 6: How does DirectSuggest ensure successful trial conversions?
No, it's activation. If you believe in the value of your product, no one's going to experience the value unless they actually use it. So you have to push them to use it. You have to build onboarding around usage and value. That's the only way they get to a paid plan. So I think I understand. I don't want to push this further. What I want to do now is wrap up here with the famous five.
Number one, what's your favorite business book?
My favorite business book is probably right now I'm reading Millionaire Mindset. And while I'm only halfway through it, that's already my favorite business book. And it's something because Dean Graziosi, he really simply lays out mindset, basic things that you need to carry out through habits in your life to further your business, your successful entrepreneurship goals that you're trying to set.
Yeah, it's funny. I hate that book. Really? Why? Well, I just got it. Right. And I like, I skimmed it and it's like, it is the fluffiest thing I've ever read in my life. It is like about rah, rah stuff with like, in my opinion, I found it very not practical. It's more like a get motivated, do what you love kind of book. But look, some books, some books are for those kinds of people. I get it.
Um, number two, some of the lists that he included in some of that. And then also because he's dyslexic, it's kind of like a long conversation. So he really simply lays things out that I've read so many different business books. Another one of my favorites is Gene Simmons' book. There's a bunch of different ones I've read. I think that he lays it out so much more simply than some people put it.
Yeah. Well, good. Number two, is there an under-the-radar CEO you're following or studying right now?
Grant Golsan. Grant Golsan. He works with this marketing agency. He's a younger gentleman like myself. And he's doing great things as far as it goes with building influencing and branding around certain companies that he's working with. He's a really large following both on Instagram and LinkedIn. I think he's really exciting.
Number three, what is your favorite online tool for building the company?
So right now, the tool that I really like using is Hootsuite because it saves a large amount of time. So because we're bootstrapped and we're family-owned, family-run, there's four of us doing everything. So I do all the marketing with direct suggest and being able to save time by scheduling my posts ahead of time and posting things, doing it through Hootsuite saves a lot of time.
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