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SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders

776: TextingBase Shares Margins, Cap Table, Valuation, More

08 Sep 2017

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 4.638 Nathan Latka

He launched texting base. He's now up to almost 500 customers, each paying 50 bucks a month.

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Chapter 2: What is Texting Base and how does it operate?

4.658 - 25.849 Nathan Latka

So about 25 grand in monthly recurring revenue. He's managed to get his churn down to 3% per month. His CAC is only 18 bucks, which is great. So they're growing. His gross margin is 78%, even considering that he has to pay messaging fees, 0.06 cents to his text messaging providers. Again, focused on helping these customers do text message marketing at 60%. scale.

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25.869 - 27.191 Nathan Latka

He still owns 50.1% of the company.

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Chapter 3: How does Texting Base generate revenue?

27.211 - 51.283 Nathan Latka

The rest of the cap table split up among employees and a portion of it, 20% to the next capital raise. They've raised 262 grand so far. This is The Top, where I interview entrepreneurs who are number one or number two in their industry in terms of revenue or customer base. You'll learn how much revenue they're making, what their marketing funnel looks like, and how many customers they have.

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51.263 - 69.373 Nathan Latka

I'm now at $20,000 per talk. Five and six million. He is hell bent on global domination. We just broke our 100,000 unit soul mark. And I'm your host, Nathan Latka. Many of you listening right now don't have time to listen to every B2B SaaS CEO that I've interviewed. If you want to get access to the database I've

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69.353 - 83.655 Nathan Latka

created with year-over-year growth rates, customer accounts, margins, and many, many other data metrics and data points, you can go to getlatka.com. Here's the thing, though. This database, I keep it to myself. It's so freaking valuable.

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Chapter 4: What is the current customer acquisition cost for Texting Base?

83.855 - 100.862 Nathan Latka

And to preserve the quality of the data and make sure that the people that have access to it have a true advantage, I'm only letting 10 companies on each month. So we're full this month, but you can go to getlatka.com to get on the waiting list for next month. And look, there's big people on the waiting list. I mean, the biggest VCs you've ever heard of. You've probably heard of them.

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100.882 - 113.862 Nathan Latka

They're big, private equity, billions and billions under management. So it's an impressive waiting list. Go get on now at getlatka.com. This is episode 776. Coming up tomorrow morning, I interview Masterclass founder, David.

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Chapter 5: What strategies did Texting Base use to reduce churn?

113.902 - 136.34 Nathan Latka

And I asked simply, David, will you win the online course wars? Hello, everyone. My guest today is Eric Beans. He is the CEO of Texting Base. Before that, he was the CEO of a company called AppUIX. He was also the former co-founder of Premier Mortgage Capital, along with author of Changing the World Through Texting Software. He's also done production.

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136.361 - 143.573 Nathan Latka

He was the producer and writer for LA Style Magazine. Chief Beans on daytime. Eric, are you ready to take us to the top?

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143.992 - 146.356 Eric Beans

Yes, sir. Thank you for having me. I really appreciate it.

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146.376 - 149.141 Nathan Latka

Yeah, of course. What does Chief Beans on Daytime mean?

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Chapter 6: How did Eric Beans fund the growth of Texting Base?

149.822 - 154.711 Eric Beans

It's Chef Beans. I was actually a chef on a show that aired in 98 markets.

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155.071 - 161.342 Nathan Latka

That's very cool. Okay, so why go from cooking to texting-based, which I assume is texting software?

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161.626 - 176.289 Eric Beans

Yeah, well, I was never really a chef. The person who ran that show, I made food for her at about 12 at night, and I think her taste buds may have been a little bit inflated at that particular moment in time. So she invited me on the show. I did it, and it was a lot of fun.

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176.71 - 179.314 Nathan Latka

That's very cool. So what is texting based, and how do you make money?

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Chapter 7: What are the gross margins for Texting Base?

179.733 - 201.936 Eric Beans

Textingbase is a personalized mass communication platform for texting. It's actually very similar to what you do on the email side. So we schedule messages, create groups, and reach out to people from local numbers. So the magic of our system is it will seem like you wrote messages personally to a lot of people, assuming you write it the right way, and then it becomes a bidirectional chat.

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202.657 - 212.979 Eric Beans

We make money by charging people a subscription. And they get a certain amount of messages per month for that subscription to use the product. So it's a pure SAS model.

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213.28 - 216.144 Nathan Latka

So it's a good SAS model there. And what do people pay on average per month?

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217.005 - 224.176 Eric Beans

50 is our minimum plan. And people pay up to thousands, depending on whatever usage they have to do.

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224.196 - 227.441 Nathan Latka

On average, though, what would you say across your customer base is? 50?

227.561 - 232.989 Eric Beans

Our mean is 50. Yeah, most people go with the min plan and build up from there when they need it.

233.189 - 235.052 Nathan Latka

And how many customers are you serving currently?

235.37 - 245.338 Eric Beans

We're approaching 500. So we're growing pretty quickly and trying to keep on going in that direction. So all is well right now, knock on wood.

245.519 - 246.562 Nathan Latka

And I mean, can I do the math?

Chapter 8: How has Eric Beans built his team and what is their structure?

246.602 - 250.493 Nathan Latka

500 times 50, assume you're doing about 20, 25,000 bucks a month in recurring revenue.

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251.823 - 255.267 Eric Beans

It's in that area. That's a very solid Virginia Tech math.

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255.327 - 260.854 Nathan Latka

There you go, man. Yeah, another hokey on the show. That's good. Now, Eric, have you bootstrapped this or have you raised capital?

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261.696 - 270.647 Eric Beans

Both. I started bootstrapping and got the MVP out, raised capital, and it's been a combination of self-grind and a little bit of money on the outside.

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270.827 - 272.329 Nathan Latka

How much have you raised to date total?

273.338 - 275.141 Eric Beans

$262,000.

275.241 - 281.53 Nathan Latka

It's very specific, right? Is this a friends and family round? Grandma wanted to put an extra 200, two grand. So that's where you get the 62 from.

281.97 - 302.4 Eric Beans

I wish my family has the ability, but I didn't go to them. I actually went to, um, uh, friends, people that had worked with them business. And then a couple outside investors, you know, we have the former COO of AOL, um, is, is one of our investors, Kimberly Partol. Uh, and then we have a former VP of HSN and we have, uh,

302.701 - 314.699 Eric Beans

A guy, Brett Kingstone, who was a former CEO of a publicly traded company, is one of the investors. So we've got a nice potpourri of people from different niches that we can leverage to help get us where we're going.

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