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864 SaaS: LiquidPlanner Goes Niche Project Management, $6m+ in ARR
05 Dec 2017
Chapter 1: What is the main topic of LiquidPlanner's project management approach?
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Chapter 2: How did LiquidPlanner achieve significant customer growth?
Hello, everyone. My guest today is Liz Pierce. She is the chief executive officer at Liquid Planner, the fast growing Seattle based maker of predictive project management technology. She is responsible for the company's overall vision, strategic direction and growth. She's an entrepreneurial leader with more than 15 years of marketing, product management and technology leadership experience.
She started her career at Liquid Planner as director of marketing in 2007 before being named COO in 2011 and CEO in August of 2012. Liz, are you ready to take us to the top. I'm ready. Awesome.
Chapter 3: What makes LiquidPlanner different from traditional project management tools?
So you told us a great story back in episode 434. That was almost a year ago today about kind of how you made a transition to COO and then why it made sense for you to come in as CEO. So we won't focus this episode on that. You guys will go back and listen to NathanLaka.com forward slash the top 434 to hear that story. It's an amazing one from Liz. But Liz, what I want to pick up on is updates.
from last time. So, you know, last time you had articulated you guys had passed 1800 customers, about 13 million bucks raised, you know, our poos annually around the 10 grand mark, we're going to talk about all that and more. But first, for folks that are not familiar with liquid planner, how would you describe the platform? What do you do?
Chapter 4: Who are LiquidPlanner's primary customers and what challenges do they face?
And what's your business model?
Sure. So a lot of people are either accidentally or intentionally project managers in their job. and most people have used Microsoft projects somewhere along the way. So kind of the easiest way to describe it is, you know, we're a bit of the anti-Microsoft project, where in most systems, you as a project manager drive all the dates into the system, and the system makes the schedule on the screen.
In our case, we're actually calculating the schedule for you. So we're looking at your priorities, the people you have on your team, and how much effort is required to do the work for your projects. And using those constraints, we calculate what's realistic to get things done. So how quickly can you deliver your projects? given your priorities and the people you have.
Chapter 5: What are the current revenue figures and growth rate for LiquidPlanner?
So we're automating that process of creating schedules and removing a lot of the manual overhead and manual updates that project managers have been saddled with for many, many years. So this is accelerating the pace of information for people working on, in our case, usually big complex projects and improving their visibility, their predictability, and their reliability of their data.
And so we can get a better picture of your kind of average customer. You said usually much bigger projects. Is the annual contract value still around $10,000 per client or has it increased or decreased?
I mean, it's still around that amount, I would say. You know, what we've seen recently is that more and more manufacturing companies are actually starting to move to cloud-based solutions for project management. And they're seeing a particular benefit from our approach to project management. And so this is typically an engineering organization.
a group that's doing both R&D on new product development and also customizing
Chapter 6: How does LiquidPlanner handle customer acquisition and retention?
products for customers doing maintenance work. So they have a lot going on and the projects are typically very complex. And so they're the ones that need the most tracking. They need to really understand where their resources are being used and how much these projects cost to deliver.
So if we take back and we just look at all the new customers you added last month, what percentage of them would you say fit that exact cohort? An engineering firm, highly complex, 10 plus seats?
Yeah, I would say last month it was probably in the 40% to 50% ballpark. So we're still selling a lot to technology companies, to professional services firms, to other types of organizations. But our focus right now in terms of going to market is to reach those people who have that specific pain point. Lots of different types of engineers, lots of concurrent complex projects.
Chapter 7: What strategies does LiquidPlanner use for effective marketing?
And for them, the stakes are very high because if you don't know when your new product is ready to roll into production, then you either have inventory that's sitting there idle or equipment that's sitting there idle. Like I said, the stakes are high. So we want to really help those organizations just get better at what they do.
And how many organizations have they said, you know what, Liquid Planner, it's our chosen one. Last time it was about 1,800 customers. Where are you at today?
Yeah, we're still around that mark because we're starting to see more customers with more users. As the functionality improves, we kind of see the smaller ones maybe going to task management solutions versus... you know, really investing in liquid planner, but the larger customers are getting more licenses. So I'm still around the same amount.
Chapter 8: What lessons can be learned from LiquidPlanner's journey and future plans?
Yeah.
So you're seeing kind of the Atlassians, the Trellos, the base camps, maybe erode your lower ARPU smaller team cohort. However, the enterprise cohort is becoming stickier.
Yeah, and I would say that's somewhat a reflection of the product and it's somewhat a reflection of where we're investing. So we have customer success managers that are really experts in these larger complex products and projects. And so we have those people really focused on the customers in that bullseye of complexity, regulation, and innovation is the other factor that we see.
These companies are trying to do new things to grow and they need a platform to support that growth.
What's your team size now?
We're about 65.
65 folks all in Seattle.
We actually have a couple of folks spread out. We have one on the East Coast, one up in Canada, one in California. So we're starting to get, you know, a few more remote folks as we go.
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