SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
887 22 Year Old King of Influencer Marketing?
28 Dec 2017
Chapter 1: What inspired Victor Ricci to start TrendPie.com?
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It was $160 million, which is the size of many IPOs. We're a bit strapped. We have like 22,000 customers. With over 5 million downloads in a very short amount of time, major outlets like Inc. are calling us the fastest growing business show on iTunes. I'm your host, Nathan Latka, and here's today's episode. Hello everyone. My guest today is Victor Richie.
He's always loved the internet and creating things. He had experimented in different areas of technology and business to find what he was passionate about. During this process, he started a half dozen web companies before founding one he really loved in trendpie.com. Victor, are you ready to take us to the top? I hope so. All right, man. Tell us what trend pie does and what's your business model.
How do you make money?
So trend pie, uh, is an influencer marketing firm started in 2015. Uh, we do influencer marketing with a twist. So instead of the traditional model of paying an influencer to post, we pay them for shares. So we found that paying an influencer to share content rather than posting it themselves is dramatically cheaper. So that's essentially how we make money.
We manage influencer marketing campaigns for our clients, which are primarily apps and other brands. And we basically link them up with influencers, help manage the content creation, and push campaigns live. And one of our biggest selling points has been we've been able to get apps trending on the App Store.
If I want to get a big influencer to share my new app update, what's it run me on average?
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Chapter 2: How does TrendPie.com differentiate itself in influencer marketing?
I'd say 95% is B2C. So apps that are kind of just mass audience type apps.
Yep. Is there a client you can talk about?
Yeah. I mean, you know, I always go to our first client was this app called Drunk Mode that basically stops you from drunk dialing people and helps you find your friends when you go out drinking. That was actually our very first client. And obviously their demographic was college students, millennials. And, you know, that was very in line with our demo. from the start.
So it was very easy for us to just push that out, get them, you know, millions of users, help them scale. And that was something that they were able to kind of build a business off of.
Are they, so what is their model now? Like, do they try and tie the five grand they pay through you back to like attribution somehow or no?
Yeah, so right now they are actually doing a lot with location data and helping, you know, make sure kids are safe when they go. And, you know, there's a lot of value behind that. And they've then built an SDK to kind of help other apps solve the same problem. They monetize that? Yeah.
Yeah. Interesting. All right. Tell me more about your backstory here. So you said you tried a bunch of stuff online before you found the kind of trend pie. When did you launch the company? April 10th, 2015. Okay. And tell me about some of the stuff you tried before that.
Yeah. So I, you know, a couple that come to mind, one was painite.org, which was marketed to be amazon.com for endpoints or marketing, where you could go in, add shout outs to your cart, upload all the information at checkout, And then, you know, the influencer would get the information, you'd get the notifications and all that.
But basically a very automated influencer marketing campaign platform that didn't have any sales after three months. So I shut that one down. And then I started College Thread, which was kind of like a BuzzFeed type Odyssey online a little bit as well, where college students would write articles, publish them there and be able to share them with their friends.
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Chapter 3: What is the average cost for influencer shares on TrendPie.com?
Uh, wasn't really where I'd like it to be. That was after about five or six months. So then I closed that one down as well.
Yeah. Because I mean, you've got to get up to the millions impressions per month to make anything meaningful via ads, right?
Exactly. I mean, we were making realistically like $3.
Yeah. And what, and tell me more about where you were in your life. So, so how old are you now? And were you, I mean, were these college projects or what?
Yeah. Uh, so they were college projects. I'm 22 now. Um, so I was doing these when I was 18, 19, um, my freshman year of college.
And are you still in school now? Or did you drop out?
Uh, I actually graduated in may. So I stuck it out. I ran, I'm free now. I ran cross country and track at my university. Um, so I was with like a, a really close group of guys that were, you know, my best friends at school. So that was something that helped me to, you know, stay in it and kind of stay in school. And what did you study?
I started as computer science and then switched to be a marketing major.
Okay. So I was going to say, did you, did you code this yourself? And you're also doing all the marketing and sales. You're kind of a two, two punch guy.
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Chapter 4: How does Victor choose the right influencers for campaigns?
And a lot of that goes into content creation, you know, managing the influencers, spending all the time doing those upfront things. So we realistically don't make money until kind of that third campaign. Ongoing. Exactly. So we kind of go for, you know, the long game rather than just make a couple hundred bucks in the first campaign.
Last year, how many brands total did you work with?
Um, I want to say it was probably like 75.
Okay. Wow. Okay. Pretty significant. So again, about a thousand influencers, you've paid at least 10 bucks last year, 900 grand top line, about 20% to the bottom line, about 150 K. And you worked at that across about 75 clients. Is that fair?
Yeah. Uh, I think I know right now we've worked with, we just hit over 150 different clients that we've worked.
That's great. How many of those 150 clients have worked with you at least twice on two different campaigns?
Um, I'd say 50%.
Okay. So pretty healthy. And what's your team look like you and who else?
Yeah. So we were remote when I was at university, everyone was remote. Uh, now we just got an office from Rhode Island. So we're trying to start bringing people in here. Um, right now it's, you know, the day-to-day people are myself, uh, Ryan, who does a lot of our campaign management. He's full time. Yeah. Yeah. And Alexandra, she's actually a student right now is still, but she's also our
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