931 Qualtrics "Well Past" $250m in ARR, When Will The Go Public?

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What is Qualtrics and what problem does it solve?

Nathan Latka 0:00
This is the Top Entrepreneurs Podcast, where founders share how they started their companies and got filthy rich or crash and burn. Each episode features revenue numbers, customer counts, and other insider information that creates business news headlines. We went from a couple hundred thousand dollars to 2.7 million.
Ryan Smith 0:24
I had no money when I started the company.
Nathan Latka 0:26
It was $160 million, which is the size of many IPOs. We're a bit strapped. We have like 22,000 customers. With over 5 million downloads in a very short amount of time, major outlets like Inc. are calling us the fastest growing business show on iTunes. I'm your host, Nathan Latka, and here's today's episode.

How did Ryan Smith handle a $500 million acquisition offer?

Nathan Latka 0:49
Hello, everyone. My guest today is Ryan with Qualtrics, Ryan Smith specifically, co-founded Qualtrics back in 2002 with the goal of making sophisticated research simple. He was named to Fortune's 2016 40 Under 40, a list of the most powerful, influential, and successful young people in business, and was also listed as one of Forbes America's most promising CEOs under 35 in 2013. He's a graduate of Brigham Young University and is a frequent guest lecturer there, among many other places. Ryan, are you ready to take us to the top?
Ryan Smith 1:17
Let's go.
Nathan Latka 1:18
I'm just going to cut right to the chase here because a lot of people I think are probably familiar with your story. You had a $500 million offer a few years ago and you're 33 years old. What's going through your head and how do you rationally convince yourself to say no to that offer in the moment?
Ryan Smith 1:33
Yeah, I think this is an interesting point where people don't probably understand what drives them on one angle and also how long they're going to work for.

What is the experience management platform offered by Qualtrics?

Ryan Smith 1:44
And I was pretty clear that I knew that I'm going to work until I'm 80 years old. And so if you actually think about what you would do if you sold your company, and mind you, it's my dad, my brother, and myself. And it's like grab your coat and go home. It was that kind of an offer. I think you really got to say, hey, what am I going to do next? And I remember getting in a car with my wife and driving on a four-hour drive. We got about 30 minutes. And she's like, Ryan, I don't need you around the house more. This isn't going to do you any good. And by the way, like the path of least resistance is to go build Qualtrics.

How has Qualtrics grown since its founding?

Ryan Smith 2:19
And so, you know, obviously we were pretty bullish on it becoming a multi-billion dollar platform. And I think we were right.
Nathan Latka 2:27
Yep. All right. Give us the back. So for people that don't know your product set, what do you do and what's your general business model? How do you make money?
Ryan Smith 2:33
Yeah, we have an experience management platform and we view that everything and where the world's going is around the experience economy. We care about experiences. We behave with experiences in mind, our habits around experiences.

What role does data play in Qualtrics' business model?

Ryan Smith 2:47
But companies historically are really bad at understanding experiences, not from their employees, from their customers and the market. So a lot of times they'll be surprised when an employee leaves and they don't understand, you know, the experience gap. They thought they were providing something to the employee, but they weren't. Or when the customers leave, everyone's trying to create a good experience. So we've created a platform where people can actually listen to their customers and their employees in the market in real time and have all that data being managed in one place. one location. And that's the experience management platform. We believe every organization, and we're seeing it, is going to have an experience management platform the same way they have a CRM.
Ryan Smith 3:27
And it's a different kind of data. It's a new data.

What challenges did Qualtrics face in its early years?

Ryan Smith 3:30
It's data that they're creating on their own, not data that they're just getting sent to them, which is pretty cool.
Nathan Latka 3:37
And are you, in terms of business model-wise, pure SaaS play today or no?
Ryan Smith 3:41
Yeah, pure sass. We have been pretty much since the beginning.
Nathan Latka 3:45
Even back in 2002.
Ryan Smith 3:46
Which is crazy. I mean, we had servers going in the basement. We were really early, probably too early to the cloud. You know, I remember all the nightmares with that.

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