SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Can This Marketplace Help Influencers Make More Money?
23 Jan 2022
Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
We, over the last year, we've done over 177 product launches.
Oh, wow. Across how many creators? 177. Oh, it's one-to-one.
Yeah. Well, right now it is. Yeah.
Yeah.
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Today, she's building Cobalt.co, which helps connectors connect to vetted suppliers. Elle, you ready to take us to the top?
Let's do this.
All right. Do you have some horror story here? Why is helping creators find good suppliers important to you?
Oh my gosh, I have so many horror stories. Actually, just ask anyone who's ever tried to launch their own product. And I'm talking about things as easy as candles, jewelry, et cetera, et cetera. There are so many brilliant ideas that creators have. Getting them out of their head seems to be the easy part, right? Everybody has Figma. Everyone can spin up a design.
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Chapter 2: How does Cobalt help creators find suppliers?
So what's unique about Cobalt is that we offer low MOQ suppliers. MOQ is the thing to know that's minimum order quantity. And that's really the question that everybody asks. Okay, I want to launch a product. How many do I have to buy in my first run? And low MOQ suppliers are pretty hard to find.
And so we've done the hard part of aggregating all of these suppliers, negotiating price points, negotiating terms, getting them into the platform. and offering low MOQs for creators. And so our low, our low, low MOQs are, you know, to the order of 25, right? You want to do a custom CBD bath bomb. You can do 25 at, you know, 750 a bath bomb. It's completely drop ship end to end fulfillment.
You never touch the product. You actually work directly through the platform with the supplier to get the product delivered, to get the product made. And it goes directly to your customers all without leaving your house.
How many creators are signed up to date?
Yeah. So what's fun about Cobalt is we're still in this waiting period, right? And we're still building all of the infrastructure. We have over 77 waitlisted creators.
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Chapter 3: What challenges do creators face when launching products?
And we're slowly getting people off the waitlist. And for everybody who emails me every day, I'll get to you, I promise. But we just like to show people how easy it is to actually launch your own brand. And that's really the magic of what we're doing at
When did you start coding this, Elle? When did you start getting all this together? What year?
We started doing it actually right before COVID.
Okay. So like late 2019-ish?
Late 2019. Yep. And then of course COVID happened and we got lucky. Cobalt got lucky because of everything that happened with COVID. What ended up happening is suppliers that used to not be willing to work with smaller brands, creators,
Because trade shows aren't happening, because market isn't happening, because of supply chain problems in China, all of a sudden, suppliers are totally willing to work with lower MOQs.
And so we're, again, aggregating all those suppliers, doing the heavy lifting, doing the research, doing the vetting, doing the negotiating on pricing, doing the contracting pieces, all the stuff that's really hard and makes it impossible to for anyone to get started doing their own product. We did all that for you.
And we're putting it right into the platform to connect directly with the suppliers.
Got it. So I totally understand the product. I don't understand how you're building now today. So it sounds like you're pre-revenue. When is launch? When do you get your first paying customer?
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Chapter 4: How does Cobalt vet its suppliers?
Oh, okay. How many customers do you have today?
We, over the last year, we've done over 177 product launches.
Oh, wow. Across how many creators?
177.
Oh, it's one-to-one.
Yeah. Well, right now it is.
Yeah. Interesting. Why don't... I mean, if you do one with one creator, don't they want to come back and do another one a month later?
Yes, you are exactly right. They do.
So why is it a one-to-one ratio? Why haven't creators used you more than once over the past 12 months?
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Chapter 5: What is the significance of low MOQs for creators?
I just want to understand how you are going to win the space. So talk to me a little bit about what you think your revenue model is here. How do you make money?
Oh, our suppliers. So it's free for creators to use. And the suppliers pay an 8% transaction fee.
Okay. Interesting. So what does that mean? Okay. So they pay 8%. So if I, let's stick with my coffee candle example, if you find that supplier and I'm going to pay that supplier 10 bucks to make one coffee candle, you're going to make two, you're going to make a, what is that? 20 cents on that $10 sale or that purchase.
Yeah.
Yeah, this goes back to the minimum order quantity, right? So the minimum order quantity is for easy numbers. Let's say it's $1,000, right? So a creator is going to place an order for $1,000 in the platform. That order is going to go to the supplier and the supplier is going to pay us $80 because we gave them a customer.
Got it. Okay, cool. So that makes perfect sense. Talk to me about how you funded the business. Have you bootstrapped or you decided to raise?
Oh, no, we're venture backed.
Okay. That means you're giving up equity. So dilution is not a fun thing. So why did you decide to raise?
Why did we decide to raise? Well, this is a venture-scale product. Yeah.
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Chapter 6: How many creators are currently using Cobalt?
And we came together through the space, through networking and knowing people in the space.
Okay. And so you're doing these, you've done these 177 product launches, or sorry, customers that have launched many products to date. When do you think you'll open up the thing where it's sort of a push button touch?
Self-service? Yeah.
When is that going to open up?
Yeah. Q1 of 2022.
Okay. And what is left to do before you can open that up? Is it something on the supply side, the back end you have to keep building?
Yeah. So if you think about a product that's comparable to Cobalt, it's easy to think about Amazon, right? In order for Amazon to scale, they had to put all the infrastructure for the stores. And so each seller on Amazon has a seller store. They have all the infrastructure that they have to create. They can set up their seller store. They add their products. They add their SQs.
They do all of that. That's all of the tools that we're building right now on the supplier side.
As you get to the point where you can release that self-service in Q1, at some point, you want to say, you know what? We don't want to raise more money at this current round because it becomes very dilutive. It looks like based off Crunchbase, you guys have raised $2.8 million today. What would you cap that at? Would you stop it at $3 million no matter what?
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