SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
COVID took them to $0, Now $1.3m in Revenue For Instant Sports Clips
10 Dec 2021
Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
What do you think you'll break next year?
I think we projected 3.1 million for 2022.
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Chapter 2: Who is Daniel Evans and what is his background?
He's a dynamic entrepreneur and senior executive with a passion for emerging tech systems architecture and user experience. He's got an extensive background aligning technology, advanced marketplaces, opportunities, and assembling teams to execute. Today, he's building Really.ai, automated short form content creation. Daniel, are you ready to take us to the top?
Sure.
All right. So who's buying this? Is it the sports team directly or content aggregators or somebody else?
It's kind of a mixture. A lot of our customers are in the collegiate space, D2, D3, some Division I. And then we have some pro teams that we work with. And then recently, we've been moving more into the high school space with name, image, and likeness kind of hitting the college scene. More brands and sponsors are kind of looking at the high school space.
And so we're moving down there a little bit too.
So like George Mason University is a good example of one of your customers. Help me understand on average, what are these companies paying you to use your technology per month?
Well, it varies. It's generally a SaaS model based on games, right? So the number of games that they want to run for the season. And then we kind of base that around how many hours that will run through our system.
So what would you say a sweet spot is for those?
Well, no, like George Mason will buy about 300 games, right? Because we'll cover baseball, football, basketball. We cover all of the major sports. So they'll do that and they'll pay somewhere between, you know, 40, 50 bucks a game.
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Chapter 3: What is Really.ai and how does it automate content creation?
But the original intent was the founders were big fantasy players. There was three of them. And one of the founders really wanted to be able to get the Alvin Kamara touchdown in his feed as soon as he got it so that he could essentially send it out to his friends and rub it in. And that was kind of how it was born.
They started to kind of cut games themselves manually and then said, you know, this is crazy. So they went digging into the academic sphere and found somebody that had written a book on using machine vision and machine learning to do this and hired him, bought his work and the rest is history.
What's the hard part there? I'm a Washington football fan. When I see a touchdown pass, I can find an illegal stream of that online and cut it up in iMovie myself.
Chapter 4: Who are the primary customers for automated sports content?
Isn't the hard part actually getting access to the content, not cutting the 60-second clip?
Well, you can't scale that, right? You can't have individuals like that. But our system will pump it out in about 3 seconds. And then it'll add any branding. But how do you get rights to the content? Say again?
How do you get the rights to the content?
Generally, our customers have those rights.
Got it. So people can't use your real tool unless you have that person as a customer. So like an NFL team, like my team, if you don't have them, I can't get clips of the Washington football team.
Correct.
Yeah. Got it. Okay. Interesting. Who are you competing with? Because I see the football team put like every NFL team does this when touchdowns happen real time, they put them out. Who do you compete with?
So that's a company called WSC. It's an Israeli company. They work at kind of the high end of sports. They're driven mostly by data feeds and AI, right? So they're getting like the sport radar or Stats Inc feeds, and then they're pairing that up with some AI to cut that stuff.
Do you have any idea on how big you think they are revenue-wise? Are they public?
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Chapter 5: What pricing model does Really.ai use for its services?
Interesting. Okay. So what year did you join the company?
I joined in 2019 and took over as CEO in 2020.
And when did the co-founders originally launch it?
2016, 2017. Yeah.
2017. Okay. Give me a little bit of the funding history. It sounds like there were investors who were unhappy. That's why you came in. So what was the funding history before you joined?
I wouldn't say that. I think there was just a little bit of difference in vision, but we've raised 1.8 to date and we're in the middle of raising a round right now that'll value the company around 12 to 13 million.
When was the 1.8 raised?
We closed that in 2020, early 2020.
2020. Okay. So there was no money raised then before you joined?
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Chapter 6: How did the company survive the COVID-19 pandemic?
We do.
Robert Leonardus How much annually?
Nick Neuman
That's up to the schools. I'm not going to go into that, but each individual school is a little bit different.
I mean, do you take a cut of the ad spend that goes through your platform? Nope.
Oh, I see.
Why not?
Because we're just not there yet. Once it becomes programmatic and we have enough wide enough footprint that we can offer that, then we would.
Got it. It's not code. Okay, got it. If it's not programmatic, it's difficult. Okay, got it. So 128 customers, if they all look like George Mason, 300 hours per year, that's $12,000 contract values. I mean, I can multiply that into an ARPU. You guys are doing about $128,000 a month right now in revenue?
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Chapter 7: What challenges does the company face in the sports tech industry?
Which is a big sports tech and esports fund and accelerator.
Interesting. Why are you doing this? I mean, it looks like you have a ton of history here. I mean, if this thing goes to zero, I would have said, see, I'm going to go work at a bigger firm where their equity is more valuable.
You know, it's, I love this, you know, I'm a big gamer. I've played sports all the way through college, you know, so I just love the space. And a friend of mine is one of the big investors and sits on the board and gave me a call and said, hey, I need some help with this. Would you, would you mind doing it? And, you know, just decided to do it.
How much do the original co-founders still own the business?
I think they're still like 40%. Oh, okay.
Okay, fair. And I assume your friend gave you what, 10, 20% to incentivize you?
I've been incentivized properly.
How do you incentivize a CEO coming in to run sort of a basically a turn on operation, though?
Yeah, it's I mean, it's all tied up in the company itself. Right. So I don't I don't take a salary. I'm here to to exit the company and do a good job with it and sell it. And, you know, hopefully everything works out.
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