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EP 310: You Won't Believe How Many Books This 24 Year Old Has Sold
22 Jun 2016
Chapter 1: What inspired Jake Ducey to write his first book at 19?
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Chapter 2: How did Jake transition from self-publishing to working with a literary agent?
She launched a membership site, and boy, does she have some secrets. She's making loads of money. Top Tribe, what is happening? You guys know what you're listening to. Our guest today is Jake Ducey.
He is a three times inspirational author with Penguin Random House and just came off an international book tour where he spoke on stages to 500,000 people and helped raise 345,000 pounds of food for homeless youth in America. His new book, Profit from Happiness, about how to increase your income and fulfillment is out on June 7th of this year. Jake, are you ready to take us to the top?
I'm ready to take it to the top.
Let's do this, man. It's gonna be fun. So, first things first, people always tell me, they go, Nathan, like, oh, like, don't write a book. It's just a lot of work. You lose a lot of money and it's no fun. Why did you decide to write a book?
Chapter 3: What strategies did Jake use to successfully launch his books?
Because I wasn't doing it for the money. And I think when you look at it from that perspective, you can build it. People build sustainable business models off of being Harry Potter fans. I wrote it because it was something in my gut that I couldn't quite explain. And then everything panned out from there.
OK, so we Jake, we have to go deep here because in the first episode of the show, I specifically say this podcast will not be for those of you, you know, you know, mountain hiking, hippie loving, weed smoking, carefree kind of people like this is going to be a show about like tactics and execution to help get what you want. You had you've had a lot of success with this book launch.
I mean, you've raised 345,000 pounds of food and spoke on stages to over 500,000 people. Those are incredible results, but you did it all with a social focus. So walk me through a few things. First things first, give us some context. How old are you now?
I'm 24.
Okay, so like super young. I love that, 24.
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Chapter 4: How does Jake balance profit with social impact in his book sales?
How old were you when you wrote your first bestselling book?
I was 19. It came out when I was 20.
Okay, what provoked you at 19 to write your first book?
What provoked me was I was sitting in economics class. I was playing college basketball and I realized it was not a conducive place for my learning. Traveled around the world, realized I wasn't looking for passport stamps. I needed to come back and do something. And I thought, you know, it was a way I could make a difference. I saw Wayne Dyer and these guys build a good living off it.
I figured I could make a difference and make a good living. And that's what prompted it. What was the name of the book?
It was called Into the Wind. Okay.
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Chapter 5: What is the significance of patience in Jake's writing journey?
Into the Wind, my six month journey, wandering the world for life's purpose. Is that it? That's it. Okay. Tell me more about the book. So did you self publish?
Yeah. Well, I thought I was going to get a traditional publisher until I realized no one would traditionally publish it. Tell me, wait, tell me why. Tell me why. Well, when you're 19 years old, people think that you don't know much about what you're talking about. I didn't even have a website at this point. I didn't have a Facebook fan page. I didn't have anything.
All I did is I thought I had this really good idea that everyone wanted to know about.
Chapter 6: How does Jake define success beyond financial gain?
And the book was about dropping out of college, backpacking around the world to find myself, self-discovery journey. And... I started going to publishers. I actually took eight by 11 pieces of paper and we'll call them dream house as the name of the publisher. And I took, I am, I am published by dream house. I wrote this on, on probably 300 pieces of paper and taped them all over my walls.
This is a, really big publishing company. And then I'm somehow magically found my way to the founder's house through, through hustle. And they denied me. I had to pull them all off my wall and face the reality that I had to self publish. Cause they said, you know, go out and sell 10,000 copies and then a publisher will pick you up. So that's what I had to do.
How many, what's so of that book? How many have you sold now?
Chapter 7: What are Jake's future plans for his writing and speaking career?
Oh, we sold about 30,000 in print.
Yes, dude. I love this. Okay. 30,000 in print. Uh, and, and you were going to keep going. How much online?
In online, we've probably done like, it's probably done half of that in eBooks or so.
Okay. The show is a balance. It's a nice balance between, you know, social good, but also money. So I do have to mix in questions. Tell me real quick, how much have you made from just that book in terms of income?
From, from that book alone, I probably, I printed them myself and still do. So I put it back in, but I probably, I probably done probably about, um, maybe like a hundred, a hundred thousand, a hundred thousand.
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Chapter 8: How can listeners connect with Jake Ducey online?
And the listing price on that was what, like four or five bucks.
listing price. I mean, it's, it says 1495, but I mean, if you sell publish, I print them for 75 cents, 74 cents. Okay.
Okay. Got it. So, so let's call it 1495, something like that. Um, and you didn't have to worry about a royalty. You kept everything.
Yeah, I kept everything. I made a deal with my agent. So my agent took like 15, 15%. I got a big literary agent. Why did you want that? why did I want it to go to a literary agent route? Because I wanted someone that had experience. Well, at first I thought we were going to get a publisher and he thought we could sell it. And then everyone told me no.
And so I had this big literary agent that couldn't even sell the book. And we just, we've become, he's like a dad to me, somebody 55 years experience. He'd done a lot of the Neil, Donna Walsh, Eckhart Tolle, the dummy series and gave me a lot of support contacts and, uh, basically I got a mentor out of it.
And, um, so it's, it's really, it's helped me out, but I can understand why people want to do it totally independent.
So you did 15% to him, anything up front? No, nothing up front. Yeah.
What was his or her name? His name is Bill Gladstone. He runs Waterside Productions. Bill Gladstone, Waterside Productions.
Okay. So is that, if someone's listening right now thinking about doing their own book, they can't get published by a publisher. Do you recommend they hire a literary agent to help with distribution?
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