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EP 331: Trump Suicide Predicted By Best-Seller Ryan Holliday, Sites Ego

20 Jun 2016

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 9.044 Nathan Latka

This is The Top, where I interview entrepreneurs who are number one or number two in their industry in terms of revenue or customer base.

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Chapter 2: What wisdom does Ryan Holiday draw from history?

9.525 - 15.774 Nathan Latka

You'll learn how much revenue they're making, what their marketing funnel looks like, and how many customers they have.

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Chapter 3: How did Ryan's early career shape his writing journey?

16.275 - 42.992 Nathan Latka

I'm now at $20,000 per top. Five and six million. He is hell-bent on global domination. We just broke our 100,000 unit sold mark. And I'm your host, Nathan Latka. Okay, Top Tribe, remember, every Monday I give one of you $100 to invest in your idea to help get it to the top. To enter, subscribe to the podcast on iTunes now and then text the word NATHAN to 33444 to prove it.

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43.152 - 46.639 Nathan Latka

Again, that's NATHAN to 33444 to prove it.

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Chapter 4: What is the significance of Ryan's book 'Ego is the Enemy'?

47.34 - 59.04 Nathan Latka

Last week's winner was Mike Sherbakov. Mike runs his own internet business. He's doing between 100 and 500K per year, and he's a blogger, author, and influencer, building his business listening to the top.

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Chapter 5: How does ego differ from confidence in personal success?

59.702 - 73.28 Nathan Latka

Top Tribe, this is episode 331. Coming up tomorrow morning in episode 332, you're gonna hear from Kevin Goetsch. His agency went from 30K to $1.3 million in annual revenue with 14 employees. All right, guys, I am here with Ryan Holiday.

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Chapter 6: What role does social media play in shaping our perceptions of success?

73.38 - 76.704 Nathan Latka

You know, I met him at Santa Barbara, I think, right? Entreport?

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77.004 - 78.466 Ryan Holiday

Yeah, we were at that random dinner together.

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78.486 - 94.467 Nathan Latka

The random dinner together. It was a good dinner. Entreport guys put on a great conference, and I saw Ryan speak about his last book, which was Obstacles of the Way. Yep. And very stoic, very, like, learn from history, right? Like, it takes a certain kind of person to get into that kind of stuff.

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94.447 - 113.772 Ryan Holiday

Yeah, I mean, I'm fascinated with the accumulation of wisdom over the last several thousand years, and I think it's interesting, you know, you read most business books or you, webinars or podcasts are like, you know, here's what I read on a blog post yesterday, when it's like, for thousands of years, people have been struggling with

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Chapter 7: What are the dangers of 'faking it till you make it'?

113.752 - 122.465 Ryan Holiday

bigger issues going through them and then writing that stuff down. And so I've tried to root my, my books at least in, in that knowledge.

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Chapter 8: How can fear impact decision-making in business?

122.645 - 137.667 Nathan Latka

So you talked about the last thousand years of data. Let's just talk about your last, what, 30? Uh, I'm almost there. I'm turning 29 in a couple of weeks. All right. So almost 29. So you quick overview, you know, America, do your first book, Robert Green. Give us the quick overview.

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137.647 - 155.651 Ryan Holiday

Yeah, so I dropped out of college at 19. I was the assistant to Tucker Mack, who I know you've had on the podcast before. And then through Tucker, I worked with a wonderful author named Robert Greene, who wrote The 48 Laws of Power. Then through Robert Greene, who was on the board of directors of American Apparel, I started working there.

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155.671 - 168.51 Ryan Holiday

I came on as sort of a strategist and an advisor to the CEO, and I worked my way up to be the director of marketing, which I was for years. Several years and then I wrote my first book in 2012 and then now I'm on my fourth.

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169.01 - 179.568 Nathan Latka

Fourth book. Okay, so give us like the overall data. So Trust Me I'm Lying was the first one? Yeah, so Trust Me I'm Lying was an expose of the media and marketing systems. That's like conservative. I mean, I would say takedown.

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179.868 - 180.269 Ryan Holiday

Okay.

180.409 - 182.993 Nathan Latka

I would say Ryan versus media takedown.

182.973 - 202.956 Ryan Holiday

Well, take down isn't fair because I was considering myself part of the problem. From the inside. Yes, it was an implosion. I tried to take everything I knew about marketing and media and just light it on fire, just give it away. What year was that? This was 2012. So you would have been how old?

203.122 - 213.396 Nathan Latka

I think I turned 25 and then it came out. Okay. And tell me real quick, economics wise, did you just do this because you wanted to do it or was there a big incentive? Do you have a big advance?

213.717 - 227.036 Ryan Holiday

No, no, I just, I actually, like I left American Apparel, I moved across the country, I sat down, I wrote this book and I had no idea if it would be anything. And then it sold, it sold for, you know, a very good amount of money and it came out and it sold really well.

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