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EP 389: ConceptDrop Raises $1.1M, Helps You Get Creative Work Done Quick with Phil Alexander EP389

17 Aug 2016

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Chapter 1: What is ConceptDrop and how does it work?

0.031 - 24.053 Nathan Latka

This is The Top, where I interview entrepreneurs who are number one or number two in their industry in terms of revenue or customer base. You'll learn how much revenue they're making, what their marketing funnel looks like, and how many customers they have. I'm now at $20,000 per top. Five and six million. He is hell-bent on global domination. We just broke our 100,000-unit soul mark.

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Chapter 2: How does ConceptDrop generate revenue?

24.073 - 50.879 Nathan Latka

And I'm your host, Nathan Latka. Okay, Top Tribe, this week's winner is Charlie Daggs, okay? He was a middle manager at a manufacturing company. He wants to break free and he won the $100 I give out every Monday. For your chance to win, simply subscribe to the podcast on iTunes right now and then text the word Nathan to 33444 to prove that you did it. This is episode 389.

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Chapter 3: Who are the sellers and how are they selected?

51.281 - 58.675 Nathan Latka

Coming up tomorrow morning, you'll hear from Steve Chow. He might be the most successful info product marketer ever.

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61.237 - 88.459 Nathan Latka

top it's drive good morning to all of you our guest this morning is phil alexander he is currently the ceo and founder of concept drop of 500 startups b7 teen grouping but before that he was a member of 1871 in the greater chicago area he was the co-founder of quick to launch llc and before that he did some time at zodius capital before jumping in to his own businesses phil are you ready to take us to the top

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88.439 - 94.286 Nathan Latka

I am. All right. Very cool. So first things first, why don't you tell us what concept drop is and how you guys generate revenue?

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95.387 - 95.647 Phil Alexander

Sure.

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Chapter 4: What is the average income for freelancers on ConceptDrop?

95.667 - 117.872 Phil Alexander

So concept drop is a marketing platform that allows businesses to have presentations and marketing material designed while they sleep. So no more design contests or wasting hours combing through a ton of applications on freelancer sites for a short project. Instead, what we do is we match everyday marketing projects like presentations and one pagers to top flight designers and

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118.223 - 142.86 Phil Alexander

through a series of advanced algorithms and integrations to everyday software, like PowerPoint, for instance. So we are a Chicago-based company. We're actually servicing over 300 leading brands And we're set up as a marketplace. So we're making money from essentially taking a cut of every single project and then paying out the rest to different independent contractors.

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143.181 - 147.549 Nathan Latka

So who is the, in this case, who is the seller? Are there freelancers?

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Chapter 5: What was ConceptDrop's revenue growth in 2015?

147.57 - 148.872 Nathan Latka

Do you sign up the sellers?

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149.982 - 162.28 Phil Alexander

Yeah. So the suppliers are kind of a global network of elite creative professionals. So we actually vet them and we have a small group of freelancers that are working on projects actually based on fit.

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162.36 - 176.04 Phil Alexander

So for instance, if it's like 11 at night and you say, I need a one pager by tomorrow, we can give you someone who might be in London, giving them a headstart on tomorrow's design, but they also have been vetted to have industry experience in your area of business. And obviously it's

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176.02 - 201.96 Nathan Latka

specialization with one pagers or whatever it might be and what percentage do you take from the seller the creative professional that's doing that work in london we're taking about 30 to 35 on on the projects up front okay and and just to be clear the vet the freelancer in london tells you i'm not willing to work for less than 50 bucks an hour you take 35 out of that or you uh or you increase 50 bucks an hour to and charge that to the buyer

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202.885 - 214.286 Phil Alexander

So basically, we are setting the prices. So it's fixed prices from both sides. And we're providing the offers to the independent contractors who can then accept or pass on the project based on the price point.

Chapter 6: How does ConceptDrop maintain high-quality service?

214.306 - 222.801 Phil Alexander

But they're not competing with other suppliers to win that project. We're actually making them the offer, providing the details, and then they can take a look and see if it fits with their project.

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222.781 - 252.079 Nathan Latka

with their pricing and with their skill set and obviously availability is a big piece of it as well my point is so it's let's say it's a hundred dollar project you're taking 35 out of that is the is the freelancer who's accepting that job seeing 70 or sorry the net opportunity which would be 65 or are they seeing 100 bucks and then you take out 35 bucks they see the net we want to show them exactly what they're going to get paid yep awesome great so you're basically upselling that to the the buyers really covering that correct okay cool so and who is the average buyer would you say

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252.92 - 267.425 Phil Alexander

The average buyer, we actually work mostly with middle market and larger enterprises. They typically come from marketing teams. Usually we sell into director level and higher on those marketing teams. So a lot of directors and marketing, sometimes CMOs.

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267.445 - 269.188 Nathan Latka

Okay. And what year was the business founded in?

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270.45 - 275.198 Phil Alexander

So the company actually started as kind of like a side project of mine back in...

Chapter 7: What are the future goals for ConceptDrop?

275.482 - 287.142 Phil Alexander

at the end of 2012. So we started as just an overnight design service for PowerPoint, and we really kind of broadened our scope and our offering over the last couple of years, launching our marketplace in 2015.

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287.503 - 291.65 Nathan Latka

And so I always like asking this question, back in 2012, Phil, do you remember what that first year revenue was?

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293.093 - 295.176 Phil Alexander

I mean, it was basically nothing.

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296.078 - 300.325 Nathan Latka

What's the number? It's always embarrassing. Is it like, what, 100 bucks, 1,000 bucks?

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301.368 - 310.546 Phil Alexander

Yeah, I was just like a couple of thousand dollars. You know, it started with me kind of acting as the middleman on every single project, which obviously there's some big limitations to scaling there.

311.488 - 312.009 Nathan Latka

Yeah.

Chapter 8: What advice does Phil have for aspiring entrepreneurs?

312.029 - 320.406 Nathan Latka

Well, you've built something special 2012 to today, July 2016. How many total buyers have purchased something through concept drop?

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321.517 - 336.221 Phil Alexander

Well, I can tell you that we worked with over 300 companies and in one calendar year, we 8X'd our monthly revenue. We went from two employees to eight full-time employees. And in the process, we recently closed out a $1.1 million venture round as well.

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336.482 - 340.268 Nathan Latka

Okay. And so if it was venture, you were selling equity, that wasn't a note?

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341.125 - 344.17 Phil Alexander

That was a, it was a, no, it was a price round.

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344.39 - 346.894 Nathan Latka

Okay, it was a price round. Did you do a convertible note before the 1.1 million?

347.094 - 352.742 Phil Alexander

We did do a convertible note. We had raised about a quarter million dollars on a convertible note prior to that round.

352.782 - 363.218 Nathan Latka

So it's fair to say you raised about 1.35 million total? Exactly. Okay, got it. What, and you just recently closed the 1.1 million. You said it was a price round. What evaluation did you have on that?

364.312 - 371.318 Phil Alexander

Yeah, I would rather not disclose the exact valuation, but I think it came in at a price we're pretty happy with.

371.618 - 394.217 Nathan Latka

What's the range? Five to seven. Okay, got it. Pre? Correct. Got it. Awesome. Valuable. Marketplaces are going through something interesting because I talked to a lot of folks doing marketplaces and the valuations are all over the place. I mean, what drove yours up? Was there like a repurchase rate that was really high or the growth rate? I mean, what drove that valuation for you?

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