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How to Be A Parent And Make $1,000,000+

25 Dec 2015

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Chapter 1: What is the main focus of The Top podcast?

0.031 - 23.997 Nathan Latka

This is The Top, where I interview entrepreneurs who are number one or number two in their industry in terms of revenue or customer base. You'll learn how much revenue they're making, what their marketing funnel looks like, and how many customers they have. I'm now at $20,000 per talk. Five and six million. He is hell-bent on global domination. We just broke our 100,000 unit sold mark.

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23.977 - 44.486 Nathan Latka

And I'm your host, Nathan Latka. Yesterday, you guys heard me talk to curator and mastermind extraordinaire, Jason Gaynor, who broke down the secret to profitable million dollar events. And he does many of them every year. Okay, Top Tribe, I hope you are enjoying yourself this morning.

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Chapter 2: How does Nathan Latka select his guests for interviews?

44.506 - 66.454 Nathan Latka

Hope you got up early, knocked out your email, and you're now ready to focus for 15 minutes, because we've got a great guest. His name is Vinnie Fisher, and he's the co-founder of FullyAccountable.com, and the creator of the Strategy and Execution Summit, again, .com. He's also the founder of Scale With Purpose. And the reason I'm having Vinnie on is because other guests

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66.434 - 87.328 Nathan Latka

have highly recommended him because he coaches them. So folks like Los Silva and Tanner both recommended Vinny. You're gonna love the episode. Vinny, are you ready to take us to the top? I'm ready to roll, brother. All right, let's rock and roll. So you've got a bunch of stuff going on, your personal website, Strategy and Execution Summit, and fullyaccountable.com. What came first?

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87.713 - 103.33 Vinnie Fisher

Uh, you know, I think what's building first is probably my personal coaching and mentor practice that's been built over a number of years. Um, so that's probably first, but what's the busiest and keeping most of my attention is probably fully accountable.

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103.59 - 115.003 Nathan Latka

Okay. Got it. Well, let me ask a different question so I can figure out what to drill into here on the show. Which one of them, which one of those three, your personal coaching, fully accountable or strategy and execution summit, which one makes up most of your revenue?

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115.895 - 127.873 Vinnie Fisher

Oh, great question. Actually, probably none of the above. I actually own other businesses as well. I think to help you, I'm the most passionate about my coaching and mentoring practice.

128.053 - 136.286 Nathan Latka

Well, again, the listeners, they care about passion, obviously, but what they really care about is what's really working. So, I mean... Let me help you there, Nathan.

136.506 - 150.67 Vinnie Fisher

Take a very nice living. Someone pays me between $5,000 and $10,000 a month to coach them. I have on average between 10 and 20 clients going at any one time. But I make more than that in my other business interests of things I've built as well.

150.89 - 154.356 Nathan Latka

Is that cash flow or is that equity in the other businesses?

154.336 - 155.037 Vinnie Fisher

Cashflow.

Chapter 3: What strategies does Vinnie Fisher use to generate revenue?

195.028 - 196.469 Vinnie Fisher

So we have an SEO company.

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196.89 - 198.872 Nathan Latka

What's the name of the SEO company?

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198.852 - 226.476 Vinnie Fisher

So domain services. We also have a health company called Leading Health Supplements. Leading Health will do $25 million in revenue this year. We just recently exited from a large hosting company. I own five brands. The most notable was freewebsite.com. Um, and with each of these, we build quarterbacks. When I say we, I mean me, I just like fully accountable.

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226.496 - 247.827 Vinnie Fisher

We have Chris Giorgio, our president and COO. My time is spent building him as our executive. Uh, I don't spend the specific time in the business being the actual operator. I build up the operator over time. And so in somewhere between 12 and 18 months, I'm handing that ball off full time to somebody. That's how I'm been able to maintain, uh,

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247.807 - 254.138 Vinnie Fisher

a either large majority interest or the senior minority interest in three current operating businesses.

254.158 - 269.325 Nathan Latka

Okay. So walk me through again, majority minority interests. I imagine you're talking about equity. I asked you at the beginning, are you talking about cashflow or equity? You said cashflow. So are you pulling cashflow out of the, you know, leadinghealthsupplements.com or the domain site, or are you just reinvesting all the cashflow back in the business? So your equity position increases.

270.082 - 284.244 Vinnie Fisher

Yeah. So those two companies, in my opinion, are more cash than they are equity. I just own it. So when I speak of equity, I am a shareholder in it. But those are really more massive cash plays than they are ever going to be worth something to somebody else.

285.647 - 291.496 Nathan Latka

And help me understand when you talk about cash play, are you talking specifically about driving top line revenue and pulling a dividend off?

Chapter 4: How does Vinnie balance multiple business ventures?

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Or are you talking about a cash event when you eventually sell it to a big customer or big competitor?

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296.339 - 316.98 Vinnie Fisher

Yeah. So, you know, the way we opened up the supplement company, you know, we went for mass market as opposed to our own niche formulation. So, you know, it's a good business, but, you know, we compete with a lot of people in that space. So we we we position that for a profit margin between 20 and 25 percent every month.

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316.96 - 333.383 Vinnie Fisher

The operator of that business, Terry, who is also my business partner, he has specific goals set by me, our chairman of the board, that we're pushing out profits to the partnership at a profit margin of net, hopefully, north of 20% every month.

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333.363 - 350.848 Nathan Latka

So let's walk. I want to dive deep in that. Let's go into krill oil. Okay. On the website, $47 price point. What you're saying is that the quarterback you're building is optimized. Let's just call it 50 bucks to make the math easy. They've got to basically the mark is this include variable marketing, you spend it, everything is that 20 to 25% margin and all in margin.

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350.896 - 368.567 Vinnie Fisher

Yeah, so if you actually, just to go along with that, so if you were looking at fully accountable in there, in our dashboard, we have calculators that I've built over time. So we call it solving for X. So it's like, I think it's our first calculator. I don't have it in front of me, but it is the variable we do to solve for our marketing expense.

368.547 - 385.037 Vinnie Fisher

So we preload in the math we want for the margin, and that will tell us our allowable expense to acquire a customer. And so we start with a premise that we want a 20% profit margin in that business, and we build the rest of our math around it.

385.017 - 401.201 Nathan Latka

So walk me through, again, I think the more specifically, let's say with the krill oil thing, it'll help the top tribe listeners take away something really, really concrete. So if you have a $50 price point or 47 bucks, and you're optimizing for a 20% margin, that means you're willing to spend about $40 to acquire the buyer on that.

401.222 - 412.138 Nathan Latka

And then you have 10 bucks that goes back into distributions to the partnership or that you reinvest in other products. Walk me through of that $40 that you're spending to acquire the customer, where do those costs go to?

412.574 - 438.086 Vinnie Fisher

So it's not really $40 to acquire the customer because you have fulfillment costs. You're going to actually pay between 10 and 15 points to get the product in someone's hand. So in your math, let's just call $5 as 10% for the $4.70. So just make it five for math purposes. So off the $50, I've got at a minimum $5, but more like $7.50 to get that bottle in the consumer's hand.

Chapter 5: What is Vinnie's approach to coaching and mentoring?

523.375 - 528.861 Nathan Latka

Got it. So you've got, again, about, you've got about anywhere between 11 and 21 bucks to acquire the customer.

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529.281 - 529.762 Vinnie Fisher

That's correct.

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529.782 - 534.127 Nathan Latka

And that is spent usually on what? Direct paid advertising, sponsorships, affiliates?

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534.547 - 556.639 Vinnie Fisher

So, you know, I, this is a great thing. I think your listeners, depending on who's listening needs to understand going from zero to some number is different than your business. So zero to a $50,000 a month revenue is different than 50,000 to 500,000, 500,000 to a million. And the reason why I'm saying that to you is because in the beginning I had to spend more time developing a list.

556.619 - 577.679 Vinnie Fisher

So I may have had to do more cold traffic things to build a tribe and a community to sell products to. But as your business starts to mature, you need to develop and mature with it. So your channels and revenue channels may not all be cold traffic. You may have dialed in Amazon a little bit. You may have pulled together how Google and your branded keyword terms work.

577.959 - 585.006 Vinnie Fisher

Your rebuild orders on your e-commerce card are working. Selling to your own fan page as well as your own email list

584.986 - 591.783 Nathan Latka

So Vinny, so for people to get perspective then, so they can say, is this accurate for me or not? What did leading health supplements do last month?

592.565 - 594.59 Vinnie Fisher

In gross revenue or net revenue?

Chapter 6: How does Vinnie manage cash flow in his businesses?

666.88 - 688.926 Vinnie Fisher

But really, Nathan, you need to understand, I don't need more money to live, right? So I need to be driven by the things that make me the most excited at this point. And I got to be honest with you, I feel called and have this high mission to really help people, not from a standpoint that I think I can coach better, but I've lived it. I've literally grown a $5 million company.

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689.066 - 693.791 Vinnie Fisher

I've grown a $10 million company. Yeah, I get all that. I get all that.

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693.811 - 700.498 Nathan Latka

But you're competitive as hell. Like, I mean, look, Bill Gates, when he's building Microsoft, could have said the same thing and said, you know what, I'm gonna go do coaching now. But

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700.478 - 726.823 Nathan Latka

like he now he's like a billionaire and he has a lot of money and he can help a lot of people so if you're getting the best returns investing in a leading health supplements company why not generate more revenue so you can help more people well that but you there's there's a flaw in that question because it assumes that i'm driven that by the most money to make because it helps the most people that's the correlation i'm drawing is yeah if you have more money you can help more people premise you don't think you can help more people if you have more money

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727.073 - 743.515 Vinnie Fisher

I don't think you can help more people with more money. And I don't think because I make more money, I help more people. If I get a CEO top performing in his business, I can actually expand my reach of helping people through their organization far greater than if I had another million dollars in the bank.

743.535 - 751.225 Nathan Latka

So you don't think there's a direct correlation to the more money you have, the more people that you can deploy that money and help more people. You do not agree with that causal relationship.

752.133 - 754.937 Vinnie Fisher

Unfortunately, there's a lot of flaws in that. No, I can't buy it.

754.977 - 769.319 Nathan Latka

Interesting. Hey, that's fine. That's great. That's why we do the show. Listeners, I want your opinion. You can go to Nathan Latka dot com forward slash the top five nine. Leave a comment. Tell me what you think. This comes up all the time. Vinny, I'm a I'm a I'm a money analytics driven dude.

769.5 - 783.999 Nathan Latka

I think the more the more money, the more revenue I have, the more people I can hire, the more people I can help, the more books I can buy people that I want to buy books for. I mean, I guess do more. So this is great perspective. Okay, Top Tribe, I wanna give you more brain juice this month totally free.

Chapter 7: What marketing tactics does Vinnie use to acquire customers?

867.946 - 869.348 Vinnie Fisher

I don't know what this thing is called.

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869.389 - 886.318 Nathan Latka

Come on Vinny. All right. Instant call recorder. There you go. Under pressure, under pressure, instant call recorder. All right. Number four, Vinny, you're, you're quarterbacking, you're building companies. You're also coaching. I'm curious if you do this in a balanced way. Yes or no. Do you get eight hours of sleep every night?

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886.879 - 887.62 Vinnie Fisher

Definitely not.

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887.801 - 901.129 Nathan Latka

Definitely not. Are you married kids? I'm married with four children. Holy, how old? All under what age? 14, 12, 10, and eight. Oh my Lord. And you don't think with more money, you can't hire people to help you and make you a happier person?

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901.149 - 903.311 Vinnie Fisher

I don't think money buys happiness.

903.331 - 919.266 Nathan Latka

No, I agree with that. That's not what I was saying though. Anyways, let's move forward. Let's move forward. Number five, if you take us back, actually, I don't know how many years we'd go back. How old are you now? I'm 45. Take us back 25 years. If you wish your 20 year old self knew one thing, what would it be?

919.921 - 927.03 Vinnie Fisher

You know, don't give up. Don't let people around you influence you to make a decision that doesn't line up with what you really want to do.

927.791 - 940.427 Nathan Latka

There you go. Well, Vinny, you're building an empire. You have a great new book out. I encourage you guys to go read it called The Best Investment, A Better You. You can check it out at vinnyfisher.com. Outside of your website, Vinny, where can people connect with you online?

941.268 - 966.622 Vinnie Fisher

You know, they can hit me on social media and Facebook on vinnyfisher.com. That contact request goes directly to me in my email. I'm very available in my social footprint. You can get us through fullyaccountable.com. You know, we have an event and summit coming up in October that I'll be the keynote and kind of the emcee of the event, which is called the Strategy and Execution Summit.

Chapter 8: What lessons does Vinnie share about building a successful business?

1016.176 - 1038.167 Nathan Latka

Okay, Top Tribe, I am pouring my heart and soul into this podcast for you. Would you help me out by subscribing on iTunes? If you're listening on your Apple phone, hit the purple arrow in the upper left of your screen and you'll see the word subscribe in purple, all capital letters. Click that subscribe button if you want me to keep doing shows and I will see you tomorrow morning at 9 a.m.

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