SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
Is $200k on $6m valuation too rich for this tool that helps Retailers heat map and launch promotions in their stores?
28 Feb 2023
Chapter 1: What is the background of Experiential ETC and its funding history?
The easiest way to do that is to go to getlatka.com and use our filtering tool. It's like a big Excel sheet for all of these podcast interviews. Check it out right now at getlatka.com. Guys, Experiential ETC was launched in 2017. They hit a million dollars of revenue over the past 12 months after raising $150,000 pre-seed round in 2020 at a 2.5 post-money valuation.
They just closed a couple months ago, a new $200,000 of funding at a $6 million post-money valuation. It's open to grow from a million bucks in revenue to 3.5 million over the next 12 months. Historically, its revenue has been split 50% SaaS, 50% one-time activations, launching a new product called XBOT, which will help brands like H&M retailers understand heat maps in their store
Chapter 2: How does Experiential ETC generate revenue through its services?
launch real-time promotions and generate ROI. He's making a big bet that he can sell $3 million worth of that over the next 12 months. Hey, folks, my guest today is Karan Bhardwaj. He is the founder of a company called ExperientialETC.com, an ad tech experiential agency using technology for brand communication. Karan, you ready to take us to the top? Yep. All right.
Chapter 3: What is the significance of the new product XBot for retailers?
Give me an example of a customer that's using you guys today.
Today. All right. So we're just doing something for KPMG, one of the big fours, and we've created an innovation center for them. This kind of entails everything from facial recognition to RFID scanning to virtual reality games to a huge tabletop, which shows all the stories about where all KPMG has touched different lives in different sectors.
We are creating something in the augmented reality space as well. So that's as far as your KPMG is concerned. But yes, all in all, Experiential Etc. is known for creating such tech-based activations for B2B clients. It could be permanent installations. It could be rental activations. But mostly we are used for brand launches as well.
Chapter 4: How does Experiential ETC utilize technology for brand communication?
So just to be clear, is this the software you're selling or are you doing custom agency work for every client?
So it is, it is a software as well as the hardware. So we are mostly a hybrid agency. We recommend the user journey. We understand the communication of the brand, what they are wanting to launch, what they want to achieve and design the entire software. And then we can recommend the right kind of hardware that should go along. It could be a mixed reality headset.
It could be virtual reality headset. It could just be a mobile phone using augmented reality. It could be an interactive projection. It could be immersive.
Chapter 5: What is the strategy behind the hybrid agency model of Experiential ETC?
Are you manufacturing your own hardware devices or are you working with vendors?
No, we're working with vendors, but we manufacture our own software. So we are a software-first agency moving from a semi-SaaS to a completely SaaS-driven business.
And so right now, like the last 12 months, if you split revenue on a percent basis, how much was SaaS versus not SaaS?
Well, the last 12 months, I would say it's kind of 50-50. But in the last quarter, it's kind of 70% towards SaaS base and 30% towards non-SaaS.
Okay, so what's the average customer paying you per month just for your SaaS offering?
Would be anywhere about $15,000 to $20,000.
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Chapter 6: How does Experiential ETC plan to scale its revenue in the next year?
Per month or per year? No, per campaign. So it could not be a recurring campaign, right? Even if it's a SaaS-driven thing, it could be probably once. And then the next month, it would not be executed. And it would be a month after that. But per customer, about $15,000 to $20,000.
Well, Sukran, then it's not recurring revenue, right? So it's one-time campaigns that you launch using software. But that doesn't give you any predictability into future revenue streams, correct?
Well, the revenue streams are projected in such a way that all the softwares that we have deployed, they kind of have a longevity of about a year's time. The client is tied with us with respect to annual maintenance contracts, with fixing the bugs, with ensuring that the software is up to date.
Chapter 7: What challenges does Experiential ETC face in achieving its growth targets?
Why don't you charge?
I guess I don't understand. Why don't you charge for that? We charge for that.
We charge a small subscription fee.
So what's the subscription? That's what I asked. What's the subscription fee they're paying you monthly? So that would be about eight to $10,000. Okay. And that's after a $20,000 setup fee. Absolutely.
Chapter 8: What are the future funding plans for Experiential ETC?
Okay. Got it. So $8,000 a month, and that's making up 50% of your revenue over the last 12 months. And then the other 50% of your revenue is coming from $20,000 setup fees, the custom work and the launch.
Correct. Correct. And this is just the SaaS business.
I just said the split between your revenue is 50% SaaS and 50% agency. And your response was, wait, no, that's just the SaaS business. I'm confused.
Okay.
Well, I'll repeat myself.
So let's say the overall business right now in the last 12 months has been more than a million dollars. And out of the entire million dollars, about $400,000 has been completely SaaS or semi-SaaS business. Now, out of that $400,000, $450,000, each and every client is paying me about $20,000 on a monthly basis. And then I'm charging them about $8,000 to $10,000 on a recurring basis.
Well, no, they're not charging you. They're not paying you $20,000 a month. You just told me they're not paying you $20,000 a month. You said they pay it one time and then that lasts for one campaign.
That is while I'm setting the entire software up right in the beginning. But then on a monthly basis, I charge them $8,000 to $10,000.
Yeah. So it's not 20,000 a month. I just want to make that clear. You keep saying they're paying 20,000 a month. They're not paying 20,000 a month. They're paying you 20,000 to set it up and they're paying you eight to 10,000 per month after. Absolutely correct.
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