SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
She has guts! Turned down $20m offer with $15k in MRR for her Ad Management SaaS
10 Dec 2022
Chapter 1: How did Victoria Dubin grow her MRR from $300 to $15,000?
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She's helping them manage all their different ads, right? So banner sizes, ad creatives, mixing them up, measuring results, all of that on Viewist.com. She just closed a $1.5 million pre-seed round at north of a $10 million cap. It was on a safe.
Chapter 2: What strategies does Victoria use to manage ad creatives for enterprise clients?
She has a team of 11, and she turned down recently a $20 million acquisition offer. Hey folks, my guest today is Victoria Dubin. She's an ex-pro tennis player and got her MS in physics and applied maths, spent 10 years working in investment banking, and then started from analytics and ended up with trading and project management.
She's a second-time founder, used to live in four countries, and never gave up on her dreams. Now building VUST, that's V-I-E-W-S-T.com, which is ads, production, project management, and scaling. Victoria, are you ready to take us to the top?
Yeah, thanks for the introduction.
You bet. You bet. Okay.
Chapter 3: How is AI integrated into Victoria's ad management platform?
So tell us the story of a customer who's using you and exactly how they use you.
Okay, so like most of our customers are either like big brands or performance marketing managers, but they have one thing in common. So their like media budgets start from like $25,000, $30,000 daily. So they have to produce a lot of different banners for different channels, first of all.
And second, you know, they do a lot of testing and that's why they need a very simple and affordable tool in order to scale their banners, their variations and run a lot of A-B tests.
Interesting. Okay. So are you using AI to generate more creatives for them? Or is it more like they upload a CSV with a bunch of headlines and you mix and match all the things together?
Okay, so of course, you know, AI is a big topic right now and it's a huge evolving trend.
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Chapter 4: What is the pricing structure for Viewist's services?
But to be honest, it's not applied to generating layered visuals as for now, just either like plain images or very good quality texts, but not actually like banners. And we are working on it, but we apply AI to small features like removing background, one of them, and also like resizing. So whenever you have a mock-up, of a banner, then you can resize it to all different sizes perfectly.
So that's where we use AI and we keep like improving this. And yeah, so that's about like AI.
That's great. Okay. And so what does the average customer pay you per month to use this technology?
You know, most of our customers are like corporations.
Chapter 5: When did Victoria launch her business and how did she acquire her first customers?
I mean, like, okay, agencies and big brands. And so usually they sign up for a year and our basic turf plan for enterprises starts from $12,000 yearly. But, you know, it depends on how many team members they invite to the platform. So, you know, $12,000 is for five people and more you invite, like more you pay.
Yeah. Would you say though, five, a five person team is your sweet spot or is it more like 10 people as the average?
Uh, you know, I would say it's like seven to 10.
Okay. So more like your average contract value might be like 20,000 a year or something like that.
Yep.
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Chapter 6: What lessons did Victoria learn from her first startup experience?
That's very cool.
Okay. Give me the backstory here. When did you launch the business? What year?
Uh, 2020.
20. Were you still playing tennis at the time or no?
You know, I still play tennis right now, but of course, you know, not professional, but I enjoy playing it. And this is like my best way to network with different people.
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Chapter 7: What factors influenced Victoria's decision to turn down a $20 million acquisition offer?
That's amazing. Were you, I mean, did you teach yourself how to code or like what came first, tennis or software and coding?
Uh, tennis, you know, it's, it started when I was like four years old and my first competition happened when I was like, probably like seven years old. And I earned my first money with tennis when I was like nine years old.
Oh my gosh. Amazing. What was the highest rank you worked your way to in the USTA rankings?
You know, I quit when I was 15 because of the injury. So like, I didn't get much. Unfortunately, I'm not like, I don't know, Syriana Williams, for instance.
Chapter 8: What are Victoria's future plans for scaling her company?
But yeah, I played good. And, you know, it helped me to actually earn some money while studying at the university. So I was coaching people. And that was the best way to network, as I told you.
That's awesome. Okay, so you started going in 2020. How did you get your first customer?
Oh, you know, I would say let's divide customers and like freemium users. So initially we started with freemium users and our first users came from AppSumo. Of course, they paid like lifetime deals, but like it's one time payment. And our first corporate client came just recently, you know, in August, actually. So several months ago.
So how does that work? I mean, you know, AppSumo is really like, it's, there's not enterprise customers hanging out on AppSumo, right? So you're now serving a very different niche than where you launched on AppSumo. How did that work? Would you do AppSumo again?
Probably not. But, you know, I would advise other SaaS founders to try AppSumo because, you know, this is probably the easiest way and low-hanging fruit to talk to your audience. I mean, because there are a lot of users from, like, marketing especially. And if you develop something for marketing, I don't know, email marketing or SEO marketing or some kind of tool for production, you know,
Content production tool, for instance, it's a good place to test it and to get a lot of feedback. And, you know, when you build something for B2B customers, anyway, you need to develop product to a certain point to make it interesting and valuable for professional teams.
But on the way to this point, you start with like small guys, probably small businesses or freelancers and Epsom is the place where you can find a lot of them.
Okay, now fast forward to today. How many customers are you working with now?
Okay, it depends. If we're talking about how many checks we've signed, it's probably right now, it's 15 starting from July this year. But if you're talking about users, these are... No, no, no.
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