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Savage Lovecast

Savage Lovecast Episode 938

22 Oct 2024

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0.149 - 4.152 Unnamed Caller 3

You're listening to the micro version of the Savage Lovecast at savage.love.

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5.473 - 21.263 Stephen Miller

If you're stuck in a relationship quandary, or if you're looking for sexual harmony, well, there's nothing you can't ask on the Savage Lovecast.

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23.061 - 46.032 Dan Savage

One way we keep things positive and upbeat at the top of the show every week is by talking about the do's. What to do, where to do it, who to do it with, or with whom to do it. But this week, we're opening the show with some don'ts. Don't fuck your students. I'm talking to teachers here, but if you are going to fuck your students, I guess do be pretty and do be straight and...

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47.028 - 50.831 Dan Savage

Do be a woman and do be fucking your students in the state of Missouri.

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51.431 - 72.628 Dan Savage

That's the lesson I'm drawing from the case of Haley Clifton Carmack, who used to be a math teacher at Lekay High School in Lekay, Missouri, until she got caught having sex with a 16-year-old male student and got caught using other students as lookouts while she was having sex with that 16-year-old male student, who she marked up by leaving deep scratches all over his back.

73.408 - 96.207 Dan Savage

Clifton Carmack was arrested and prosecuted, but somehow she's only facing three months in prison. I'm thinking a male teacher, gay or straight, who had done the same and, like Clifton Carmack, had fled the state to avoid arrest. Yeah, that math teacher would have gone to prison for a lot longer than three months. For the record, 16 is the age of consent in 30 U.S.

96.227 - 115.356 Dan Savage

states, but it's 17 in Missouri. But even if that student of hers had been 17, it would have been a crime in Missouri regardless, as it is a crime for teachers in Missouri to fuck students. And by law, the student's consent, even if they're 17, cannot be used as a defense. Nor can the parent's consent.

115.876 - 133.005 Dan Savage

In an odd twist, the father of the student, Clifton Carmack, statutorily raped, was himself arrested. because he knew about the affair his son was having with his math teacher and didn't report it to the authorities. In yet another bizarre twist, child marriage is legal in Missouri.

133.025 - 156.956 Dan Savage

A bipartisan attempt this year to end child marriage in Missouri failed to make it out of Missouri's state legislature again this year. So in Moe, at the Moe, a parent can consent to their teenage child marrying an adult, which is not okay, but a parent... can't consent or even turn a blind eye to their teenage child having sex with an adult. Also not okay. Make it make sense, Missouri.

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