Saved Not Soft
Spiritual Oppression, Battling Anxiety and Obedience w Clarissa Rojas | SavedNotSoftPodcast
Wed, 05 Mar 2025
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Chapter 1: What is the significance of having guests on the podcast?
Hello, hello, everyone, and welcome back to Saved Not Sauce. What's going on, everybody? Y'all, today I'm so very, very, very, very excited. And I have, because you guys know it's rare occasions when we have guests, but when we do have guests, it's super important, super valuable to me into this ministry that God has graced and blessed me with.
And before I get into who my guest is, first, if you don't know me, my name is Emmy Moore. I'm the host of this podcast, and this is Save Not Soft. And what is Save Not Soft? Save Not Soft is a podcast navigating your Christian lifestyle of what it means to be heard, loved, and seen by God. That's the mission statement. Literally, this journey is not easy. It's a little hard.
So this podcast is pretty much here to help you navigate those seasons and what it's like to walk in the Christian lifestyle in this day and age and in this culture. Okay. Now, we had to get that out of the way so I could get to my guest. Because I'm like, that's kind of like the roll call. We do that every episode. But y'all, this isn't just like a regular, shmegular friend.
Or like, oh, I go to church with this lady. Or we just know each other from social media. It's like, this is my real life, in person, all around the world, everything, my best friend. So give a round of applause for my bestie, Clarissa Rojas. Hello.
Hello. Thank you for having me.
It's the first time on the pod. I know. Which is weird because I feel like we should have done this sooner.
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Chapter 2: How did Clarissa Rojas and Emmy Moore meet?
It's God's timing. It's God's timing. That's what it is.
We've already been friends for so long. Like, I feel like this almost happened really naturally. Yeah. To where I feel like if this would have happened, I don't know, even like two years ago would have been like...
okay. Yeah. You know? Yeah. No, it's definitely God's divine timing. Yeah.
It definitely flew really well.
And we're more mature in the faith.
Oh, for sure. Yeah. Well, we've been friends the past. It's literally, I feel like it's about, it feels like it's coming up four years, but I think it's three about to be four.
Yeah.
It's about to be four, which is really insane. But it feels like I've almost done my whole life with you, even though like, I haven't, but I think it's because we've just seen each other so much and have prioritized our friendship so much. And God has been so magnified through our relationship. It's been great.
Well, kind of almost the start of your whole life when you gave your life to Christ. That's when I met you. Yeah, it was right after your life was just starting. Yeah. Yeah. Technically.
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Chapter 3: What was the turning point in Clarissa's faith journey?
God humbling me was that moment. Like him showing me his glory, his goodness, and being like, you are nothing like this without me, without my blood. That was him. Sorry.
No, you're good. I just have a question. Like follow-up question. Like where were you in your life when that happened though?
Oh, like what was I doing?
Yeah, like what were you doing to where he had to encounter you like that?
So I was in college. I was in my third semester of college. And I was like, I don't know what I'm going to do with my life. And I feel like everybody...
ask anyone who's fresh out of high school right trying to figure out what they want to do even if they say they know what they want to do they don't that yeah like it's like then i have i have my friend she just graduated she said i don't know what i want to do with my degree you hear so many people say that it's just like you know going through the motions and i didn't want to do that right i didn't want to just be like okay i'm gonna pursue this degree and then figure out what to do with it later i'm like no i want to know what you want from me now yeah
And I think that was kind of like where I was at in my walk. I'm like, I'm confused. I don't know where I'm going. And then it made me question. I'm like, wait, have I always been lost? Yeah. I'm like, have I always been confused? Because growing up in school, I hated school because like, it felt like everybody around me knew what they wanted to do.
And I didn't know what I was supposed to be doing. All I knew is I love Jesus. That was it. All I knew is I love the word. Like, I may have had a hard time having that relationship with him, but I knew I loved this. My uncle, who grew up being my mentor and somebody who taught me the word, that's all I understood. I didn't understand math. I couldn't understand history sometimes.
The only thing I was probably good at was English. And I'm like, I genuinely think that's God though. Well, cause it's writing. No. Yeah. I genuinely think that was God. But, um, in other areas I felt like such a failure. And so going to college and like everybody around me is like, yeah, I'm gonna pursue this. I'm gonna pursue that. I'm like, God, I don't know what you want me to pursue.
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Chapter 4: How does anxiety manifest in Clarissa's life?
Because if God is going to find you in hell, he can definitely find me when I'm not in my right mind or when I'm stuck in fear or when I'm ashamed or insecure. Like God could do that. So it's just a matter of being okay with dying to yourself because essentially that's what Christ wants and that's what he died for.
So... No. Yeah. The dying, the dying to self and the dying to pride is truly what rescued me because I didn't think I was prideful. I mean, I didn't even fully know what pride was. And so I was learning about humility and humility in the Hebrew means and it means to be wretched and needy. Yeah. And I was like, okay, it's a crazy word. No, yeah.
That's why Paul says, well, what a wretched man I am. Who will save me from this body of death? Thanks be to God in Jesus Christ. Because only he can truly rescue you out of whatever it is that you're going through. But you first have to recognize what a wretched man you are.
And I don't think for the longest time while I was battling my anxiety, I didn't think I was needy or tried to convince myself that I was okay because...
i'd be lying if i didn't say that there were moments where i'd be begging god literally i'm like do you not hear me i am in need god please save me from this like we're talking from first grade all the way up until my freshman year of college there were moments where i was literally like god why won't you rescue me and why aren't you showing up like why aren't you like coming in and in my case um and in a lot of people's cases who i've spoken to about this um the reason is is because we want a quick fix we don't really want
the work of jesus christ yeah you know the the building up the molding of the clay we don't really want him to snatch us up in the miry clay and then build us up and then put us through the fire like we just want it to be completely done with and all good and dandy like that's not how god works though and so all my prayers without me knowing but i know now is that i just wanted that quick fix i just want you to deliver me and that it be done yeah like i don't want to go through the fire after this
Yeah, but it would no longer make you needy of him. Exactly. And it's like one of those things where it's like God enjoys the process that you might hate because he's in it. Yeah. So it's like God enjoys our process that we have to go through because we need him through the process. So it's like as soon as we are not in a place of neediness, like we don't need God.
God then, like even when we was at the flea market and we were studying 2 Corinthians 12, where Paul is talking about the thorn of the flesh. Like he said, a messenger of Satan has afflicted me with this thorn so God could humble me.
And it's almost as if God has allowed you and I both to experience that anxiety for so long or all these areas and avenues of our lives to where it was very traumatic. God, why don't you snatch me up from this? God, why don't you fix it right away? Because it makes us dependent of him. It keeps us in a humble position. Yeah.
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Chapter 5: What role does fasting play in spiritual growth?
Like, will you choose me even though this feels easy, even though everybody else is doing it, even though the majority of Gen Z is doing all this, like, witchcraft, tarot card reading, they sleeping with whoever, they have hookup culture and all this stuff. Like, those things look easy, but are you going to choose me? Like, there's another option.
It's like God just allows that to happen, not because he wants us to choose evil, but actually because he wants us to choose him. And if God forced us to choose him, then it wouldn't feel fair. God is just and he's fair. So if God didn't orchestrate freedom and risk because love can't exist outside the parameters of that, then we wouldn't have a free choice to freely choose them.
Therefore, it wouldn't actually be a relationship. It would be dictatorship. I did a whole podcast episode on this if there's people who are listening who are like, Bro, what? There's a whole episode talking about why does God allow suffering? But it's kind of like that question. Like, dang, God, like, why do you... Like, I bet even Paul had that question with God in 2 Corinthians 12.
Like, why did you allow the messenger of Satan to come and put this thorn in my flesh? But he answered it. He was like, because it keeps me humble and it keeps me needy. And I understand why you did this, God. It's not because...
you want this to happen it's because you want my neediness yeah and it's because if that wasn't allowed to happen it's almost as if god allowed that to happen because paul couldn't infiltrate that that behavior for himself yeah like i bet if we were to keep ourselves needy all the time and if we humbled ourselves all the time like we'd be good yeah but like god has to humble us yeah because we fail to humble ourselves you know exactly
No, I even think when it comes to like our own selfish inclination and desires that we were within the spirit, Paul, he's like, is it in second Corinthians where he's like, I do what I do not want to do. It says Romans 7.
It says I do not want to do what I do want to do. I don't do it because of sin that lives within me.
Yeah. So it's like this constant, like bad. Does that mean like you can't have a relationship with God or get, God can't grant you grace again. Like literally God says, God opposes the proud, but gives grace to the humble. Like you can't even have grace without humility. True. Like, To even think about that is crazy because everyone's like, oh, free grace, blah, blah, blah.
Everyone's living by this grace that enables them instead of changes them. And that's the problem in our society. It's like, you know, oh, I can do whatever I want, blah, blah, blah. And we're living by this false doctrine of grace. And it's like, no, it's supposed to change you.
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Chapter 6: How can one deal with spiritual oppression?
But whenever I wasn't accountable and I had like a rebellious, a rebellious attitude towards authority, every time I was told I was wrong, oh, I'd freak out.
Yeah.
Like I would hate being wrong because there was a part of me that wanted to call it shots and like be right. But once I surrendered that fully onto God, it truly changed my life. And I was able to be truly accountable and not just like accounted for in areas, but transformed as well. But I also wanted to talk about like how that accountability changed.
like the conviction that comes with that also flows into the obedience that God has called us into in certain situations. Like say, if I could just give you one on the top of my head, my mentors called me out on something where I, you know what it is. I'm going to talk about it another episode. Cause I'm like, bro, that is a different story.
But they called me out on some stuff where I was like, oh, I'm down so bad. But when I tell you that that moment immediately made me turn around and repent towards God and go through with obedience, it really did. And that's the point of conviction. It's God showing you, hey, conviction should always be compassion because it's like, I love you so much that I'm showing you this.
I told you this the other day. I was like, because there was something that you reached out to me and you're like, dang, like I hate that I'm seeing this right now. And I was like, there's a, this is by the grace of God. He's showing you this because he tells you he doesn't want you to be in it no more. Like that's actually compassionate God. Like he's not condemning you.
He's actually being very compassionate by showing you where you're wrong. I think we would be okay with,
being more wrong if we just allow the holy spirit to convict us and like stop seeing because whenever you talk to me i know it's not clarissa and what she thinks it's like no god is using clarissa to speak to me right now yeah does that make sense no a thousand percent and i think a lot of accountability when people do give accountability you know it's from the spirit when it's directly connected to his word
For sure. If someone comes to me and they're like, you're doing this wrong and look at the scripture that proves it. I'm not denying that. Absolutely. Because I'm like, I'm not going to deny scripture because then I'd be calling God a liar and I'm not going to do that.
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