Bruce Jones, director of the Project on International Order and Strategy of the Foreign Policy program at the Brookings Institution, joins the show to discuss seapower. Times 00:51 - Introduction 01:17 - The importance of seapower today 06:45 - Innovation of container shipping and how that changed the global economy 12:50 - China re-enters the seas 16:54 - China’s security challenges at sea 22:44 - Shallow seas, narrow passages, and massive ships 24:06 - China’s strategic interest in Taiwan 26:10 - China’s alienation of potential allies 29:08 - American strategic view of the Pacific Ocean 34:41 - Relations between the United States and India, specifically in terms of taking on China 39:12 - Seapower theorist Alfred Thayer Mahan 44:55 - Comparing America’s quest for power at sea during the 20th century and China’s return to the sea today 48:48 - The role of oceanography in nation-state power competition

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