Why a paper about relocating coastal communities hit a nerve
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How did a Nature Sustainability paper spark debate about relocating coastal Louisiana?
It's not every day that a scientific paper in nature sustainability breaks into the zeitgeist, but that is what happened back in May. Climate researchers, some local to New Orleans, wrote that due to rising sea levels, coastal Louisiana had crossed the point of no return and that government should be making plans now for places like New Orleans to relocate. Over the last few months, this reignited a debate that's been happening along the Gulf Coast for decades. So as the effects of climate change intensify, how should we be thinking about relocation? Here to talk to us about this is Jessica Dandridge-Smith, executive director of the Water Collaborative of Greater New Orleans. Jessica, welcome to Science Friday.
Hi, thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited to be here. Thank you for joining us. I want to know, did this paper really make it into conversation in New Orleans?
Oh, my goodness. I think when it immediately hit The Guardian, it was a part of every single outlet overnight. And I think for like I, you know, I think it's good reasons and bad reasons.
Yeah.
But I think it did elevate conversations that have been maybe suppressed for a long time. So, yes, it was. And everyone's talking about it, whether you're a scientist or not, whether you're in the climate environmental justice space or not. Everyone has been talking and asking about this article.
You've worked on sustainability around water in your whole career. How do you think about relocation?
Yeah, I think relocation is complicated. It's not to anyone's surprise who knows anything about Louisiana that we are, you know, swamp marshland. And that, frankly, that we're sinking, right? Every single year we sink about two centimeters annually just in Orleans Parish. And we lose about a football field of land every 100 minutes. So we are an incredibly vulnerable area of the United States of America. I think that, you know, I've been a part of several study groups and workshops, and what we've seen is every time they've done relocation efforts, they've not only failed to meet the homeowner's need, they failed to meet the community that is receiving the individuals. And an example in Louisiana is a place called Ile de Jean Charles, a indigenous group of individuals, and their land is completely being lost to sea level rise.
And the state tried to do this, you know, manage retreat program and move them. And basically they lost connection with one another. They didn't get the value of the home that they thought they were going to get. Where they moved was not necessarily better than where they started. So you have to be really mindful of what people are willing to tolerate.
Do you think there needs to be a plan for relocation for New Orleans?
Oh, yes. And I think that's every city, too. I want to be clear that New Orleans is We're kind of like the poster child for all of these issues. Right. But I think that you're not alone. Yeah, we are. We are 100 percent not alone. And to answer your question. Yeah, I think when we I've worked with a couple of different groups and what we discussed is, one, you have to figure out what is a receiving community look like and what are people willing to leave for? The second thing is that receiving community needs an influx of cash to say we're going to be able to expand our water treatment system, our sewage treatment, our electrical grid. We're going to be able to handle more people with city hall, police force, all of the things that make a city run properly.
You need to be able to have that built out to take on an extra hundred thousand, let alone a million people. So you have to start planning ahead of time and saying, I'm going to find a city that is willing to plan with me 30 years out. And frankly, under the social economic challenges that the United States is facing, that's a lot to ask for a city. And I'll say this in closing, too, is that Louisiana culture and particularly New Orleans culture is not replicable or replaceable.
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5 chapters
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:03–0:07
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How did a Nature Sustainability paper spark debate about relocating coastal Louisiana?
0:07–4:41
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Did the relocation paper become part of everyday conversation in New Orleans?
4:41–8:08
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What are the local risks and statistics that make New Orleans vulnerable to sea level rise?
8:08–10:27
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What went wrong with past relocation efforts like Isle de Jean Charles?
10:27–12:05
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