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Lucid Dreaming: The Bonkers World Inside Our Minds

14 Nov 2024

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1.195 - 25.566 Blythe Terrell (editor / producer)

Whoa, this is incredible. And I like flew around in like big loop-de-loops. I'm up high. I'm looking down at the trees. I'm feeling the wind in my hair and just totally going for it. I felt like I'd unlocked something like super magical. Then I really did have the sensation. I was like, this feels to me like what it would feel like to be flying in the sky.

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30.541 - 56.272 Wendy Zukerman

Hi, I'm Wendy Zuckerman and you're listening to Science Versus. Today on the show, we're pitting facts against flying as we swoop into the world of lucid dreaming. There are people that have a superpower where they know that they're dreaming and sometimes can even control what happens next. And in their dreams, people all over the world are saying, Okay, great, let's fly.

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56.312 - 62.407 Archer (guest; friend of Wendy) / Arj

Yeah. And that's what I did. I was just flying up and down the staircase.

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62.447 - 72.899 Dr. Brigitte Holzinger

I found myself flying through a beautiful landscape, I guess similar to New Zealand.

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73.419 - 87.044 Wendy Zukerman

And the insanely almost magical thing about lucid dreaming is that people who do this will tell you that it feels real. It's not like closing your eyes and imagining that you're flying or doing whatever. You're really there.

87.685 - 91.249 Dr. Başak Türker

It feels so real. You're like, how is this possible? It feels so real.

91.67 - 105.867 Dr. Denholm Adventure-Heart

And like you can hear, you can smell, you can even taste. You know, I've had lucid dreams where I've just gone to a banquet and just tried all the different foods on the table. I could also have superpowers and go on epic missions into outer space. And it was just this like playground in your own mind.

106.307 - 135.627 Wendy Zukerman

A playground to be whoever you want to be. And for some folks, this isn't just a bit of fun. They're also trying to use lucid dreaming to improve their mental health, overcome fears, and to understand themselves better. That's how my friend Archer used lucid dreaming. He's the guy going flying down the staircase. Archer is a trans man. He wasn't born with a penis.

136.468 - 139.692 Wendy Zukerman

And for years now, he wished that he had one.

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