Frank Corrado: Mike Babcock might be back?! Frankie shares his experience playing for both Babs AND John Torterella
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
This is Harrison Price from the Historic Wall Center. We welcome in former Vancouver Canuck, TSN hockey analyst, grieving Azuri fan. Starting to hit home now. And once upon a time, Mike Babcock player, Frank Corrado, who joins us from his home in suburban Toronto.
What was Frank Corrado's first reaction to Mike Babcock potentially returning to the NHL?
I couldn't believe Mike Babcock's name popped up in the Oilers coaching search. As soon as I saw it, I thought to myself, oh my god, Frankie and his stories. I was a little hesitant to ask you about it, lest there be any PTSD. But you're telling me you're on the Mike Babcock tour right now. All the shows you do. You and Commodore.
I don't want to be. It's just people ask me, right? Because I feel like that's what people know me as. It's funny. I met John Cooper for the first time this year after a morning skate in Montreal. And after I introduced myself to him, he goes... Where do I know that name? Oh, you're the guy that was getting screwed by Babs, weren't you? That's what John Cooper knew me as. Anyways, suffice to say that... very familiar with the coach and the individual. And I always preface everything I say about him by saying a couple things. First of all, no one's entitled to anything in the NHL. You have to earn everything. So you should never expect to be given anything. And I never expected to be given anything. The other thing is he is one of the smartest, most detailed X's and O's hockey people on the planet.
He might be the smartest X's and O's detailed hockey guy on the planet. But he is an egomaniac who gets in his way so many other different directions. And that has been to the detriment of Mike Babcock, who talks in the third person. So as far as the Edmonton... Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Mike Babcock talks in the third person?
Yeah, you got buddies that talk in the third person?
Blake Price cannot believe that Mike Babcock talks in the third person. He really can't.
Just put yourself in this situation, okay? You're having a conversation with Mike and Blake, and you start talking in the third person. Just put yourself in that spot. How is that for you? Is that normal? It's so weird. So weird.
It's weird, right? So when he's coaching you, he talks in the third person?
Not all the time. No, not all the time. But he does have, he says things in the third person.
Give me an example.
He says his name. Mike Babcock is not pissed about this or something. He just says his name in the third person. He does it a little bit, more than a little bit. Anyway, so, you know, people that do that, that's already a red flag.
Yeah. And what I love, too, is that it's coming from, you know, pretty stout people like yourself, Johan Fransen, Mike Commodore. Like, that's shrinking violence here. You know, these aren't like perimeter players that just, you know, couldn't handle the heat. Right.
Well, let's distinguish Frank Corrado and Mike Commodore. One of these things is not like the other.
Yeah, like me and Commie are a little different for sure. But I always explain it to people this way. And people in Vancouver would be very familiar with the John Tortorella experience. I am fortunate enough that I got to play for both of these guys, Torts and Babs. And there's a very distinct difference between the two. Torts... can yell and scream, and he can get confrontational, and it can suck sometimes to have to go to the rink and face the music, especially when things aren't going well for you as an individual or for the team. It's not going well. But Torts says it to your face, good or bad, and he's the first guy to come down to the bench and pat you on the back when you do something good. He's the first guy to give you reassurance when he thinks you deserve it or you need it.
So as much as... torts can be prickly torts cares about the individual babs cares about babs and there's and he doesn't want to get confrontational with you he wants to slither around it somehow so he can put the blame on someone else and it feels like there's these mind games happening and so there's a there's a very big difference between both those guys. It's not always there.
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:02–0:27
2
What was Frank Corrado's first reaction to Mike Babcock potentially returning to the NHL?
0:27–5:42
3
How does Frank describe the difference between Mike Babcock the coach and Mike Babcock the person?
5:42–10:46
4
What examples does Frank give of Mike Babcock's third‑person and ego behavior?
10:46–17:57
5
How does Frank compare coaching styles of John Tortorella and Mike Babcock from a player's perspective?
17:57–23:23
Speakers
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