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SEN Breakfast

Contracts, Rules, Umpires & Greg Swann | Footy chat (10.06.26)

09 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What are the key footy news updates discussed?

0.031 - 12.063 Garry Lyon

Breakfast with Gary and Tim. The good oil for Cobramer State. Australia's most awarded extra virgin olive oil. Grown, harvested and first cold pressed in Northern Victoria.

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13.124 - 30.021 Greg Swann

Great to have you with us on this Wednesday, the 10th of June state funeral today for Neil Danaher at the MCG from one o'clock. So another big day in our, on the orbits that we move in and we'll be there and SEN taking the state funeral at one o'clock.

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30.49 - 53.055 Tim Watson

Yeah, we are, so you can hear it all here on SEN. Before we get into some other stuff, I had a conversation with a person who I would describe as a football insider, heavyweight type person. Last night, did you have this discussion? Yesterday, just yesterday. Yesterday. Yesterday, we were talking about a number of issues. One of those that came up, we started talking about the Gold Coast Suns.

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53.035 - 70.529 Tim Watson

And he works in this space and has done for a number of years. And he was up there watching them play. And I said, what did you think? He said, I don't think the players had their heads necessarily in the game. He said, but that happens. And I said, what do you mean that happens?

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70.549 - 92.484 Tim Watson

He said, well, you'll find that when the sides have their buys this time of the year, that's when those that need to be discussed and those that need to have an interview with somebody, that's when they generally catch up. So they use that buy break to in the season to catch up with a prospective suitor or sit down with another club and whatever. And he said, look, it wouldn't surprise me.

92.504 - 108.422 Tim Watson

There's a lot of- What, eye off the ball stuff? There's a lot of Gold Coast Suns players that probably are trying to weigh up their future at the moment, and we know who they are. And he said, well, probably, you know, they've sat down and they've spoken to clubs during that break. And he said, not just the Gold Coast Suns. He said, this is what happens all over the competition.

108.782 - 110.825 Tim Watson

We need to do something about this, don't we?

110.865 - 112.827 Greg Swann

So Jed Walter has met with your club.

112.807 - 123.757 Tim Watson

I'm not saying he did. No, it's been reported. Well, okay. So you can tell us that he did. Well, I don't know that he did, but if you're telling me that, then that actually adds some sort of validity to what this person had to say.

Chapter 2: How do players use the bye week for negotiations?

164.316 - 178.812 Tim Watson

You're going to say you can't do it, so everyone goes and does it in a – Well, if you get caught, you get fined. There are massive fines in other sports around the world for tampering and talking to players in contract. So we've got the opposite ends of the scale. I don't know what the answer is.

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178.832 - 190.585 Greg Swann

Yeah, because the NRL, they do their deals two years out. The coaches do deals two years out. Players do deals two years out. It doesn't seem to have affected them too much. They seem to just accept it and move on.

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190.605 - 209.192 Tim Watson

It makes sense, though, doesn't it? For some players, if your mind is – Like you've got your break. You've decided, okay, your manager's come to you and said, look, now's the time for us maybe to sit down and have some serious conversations. The clubs, we've lined up a couple of clubs that want to talk to you during this break. You've got this break. You're away from the club.

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210.033 - 230.9 Tim Watson

Got some clear air for you. You sit down, and then all of a sudden, somebody's sitting there across from the table, somebody that you really admire. They're saying how much they love you, how much they want you. It's an amazing pitch. Now he's a little tickled. And then they put down a piece of paper in front of you and said, look, and that is our best offer.

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231.661 - 253.142 Tim Watson

And you look and you go straight to the bottom of the page. You see it says seven years. And then you see this big, fat, juicy figure way beyond your expectations, way beyond what your own club that you're playing for right now has offered you. And that's going to spin your head. And you may not be able to concentrate fully when you go back to play for them.

253.122 - 256.708 Greg Swann

So you think it's affecting, your man thinks it's affecting Gold Coast.

256.728 - 273.618 Tim Watson

No, well, he said he joined the two things together because he just watched them play. And he said, well, look, you know, it's possible. These guys who, you know, one guy in particular performed pretty ordinarily. He's one that is on the radar of a lot of teams. So it can happen.

273.878 - 291.145 Greg Swann

It can happen. I'm sure it does. I'm sure. I don't know the answer to it. I'm sure it does. Hey, Greg Swan joined us last night on your show, AFL T60, I call it now. There was lots of things to talk about. So the big one, Billy Frampton's been suspended for three weeks. Let's just have a listen to what Swan had to say.

291.428 - 310.229 Garry Lyon

It's probably just at the end there where the driving and that, you know, we always come back to that duty of care. Now, I've got to be a bit careful what we say here because Collingwood might appeal the sentence, which, you know, but it's sort of that end bit where, and he doesn't let him go. They're the cues that you look for.

Chapter 3: What are the implications of the Billy Frampton suspension?

981.16 - 984.605 Greg Swann

I put that to Swanee last night, and this is what he had to say on it.

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984.625 - 991.776 Garry Lyon

The bottom line with that is that the person on the mark has to have an ability to jump up and touch the ball. And if you go around him, then he can't do that.

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991.796 - 996.384 Unknown

Well, your first part's very arguable. The second part of your rule says no.

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996.404 - 1011.923 Garry Lyon

Yeah, no, I get it. You can go out. So what do we do? When I read that, it said it's so long as you don't improve the angle. So if you go right... and effectively not improve the angle, but then we... So what's the answer? Well, the umpires, and in that instance, are saying you have to kick over the man on the mark. That's the thing.

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1012.524 - 1027.56 Garry Lyon

And we have a mid-season review which we send to all the clubs, which is going out... I think it goes out on Monday, and it's going to say you have to kick over the man on the mark. That takes precedent over not improving the angle.

1027.82 - 1029.342 Unknown

When will that go out? Monday.

1030.267 - 1035.981 Greg Swann

So effectively, that second part of that rule, which we read out, is now going to be scrapped.

1036.983 - 1051.108 Tim Watson

Yes. So you will have to – it doesn't matter – are we saying now then, it doesn't matter where you approach from – Within reason. Yeah, within reason. But you must end up kicking over the man on the mark. Correct.

1051.128 - 1063.767 Tim Watson

So you think about the guy- So you can come from a little bit to the right, a little bit to the left, but when you ultimately strike the ball, you have to be kicking over the man on the mark. Correct. And maybe you give them maybe a little bit of like a meter either side of the man on the mark or-

Chapter 4: What does the AFL's duty of care entail for players?

1271.406 - 1273.591 Greg Swann

And then everyone just ran over for a boundary throw in.

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1273.931 - 1285.875 Tim Watson

Well, even last night, one of the clips that they played of Johnny Worsfold when he was inducted, he picked the ball up at halfback as a defender and handballed it straight over the boundary line. That's right.

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1285.855 - 1302.754 Greg Swann

Now, surely our game is better for that change, is it not? Yeah, 100%. Let's get some 7.30 news headlines. Andrew Russell for Wellness Wednesday is going to join us. We've got Tommy Green out of eight. And we've got Mitch Owens from the Saints. Thought the Saints were superb on the weekend. Didn't get the chocolates against the Sydney Swans, but they played a good style of footy.

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1302.774 - 1303.915 Greg Swann

Mitch Owens to join us as well.

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1304.496 - 1313.466 Unknown

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