Chapter 1: What led to Carlton and Michael Voss parting ways?
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Chapter 2: How did Michael Voss respond to his coaching situation?
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Kane and Kingy. Fire. Well, we're a results-based industry, so naturally if you continue to lose games, Gerard, I would say that changes would have to be made in some way.
He knows, he's a realist, that our performance needs to get better and he's working really hard to get that done and I give him great credit. for his want to make our team better.
Chapter 3: What was the club's stance on Michael Voss's future?
I don't coach for my job, I coach for building a culture and hopefully by the time I leave here is that we've got winning behaviours and I understand clearly what that looks like. We clearly understand what that looks like when we meet them and we clearly understand what that looks like when we don't. And I coach to create an environment that enables that to happen. The day has come at Carlton.
Michael Voss has decided to resign, effective immediately, so he will not coach the Blues again. I think they made it pretty clear to him that they weren't going to continue with him beyond this year. It was up to him how he proceeded from here and he decided to resign himself rather than drag it out another few weeks and just put on a brave face. And I think...
The quote from Chris Davies, their football boss on the weekend, when he said, Michael Voss is a realist, is exactly how this has played out now.
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Chapter 4: What were the factors influencing Voss's resignation?
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Kingy, what a day. He never rings. He never rings. He never calls. You might get a text, but you never get a call. He said, it's on. I said, what's on? He said, we're back at work again at 12.01.
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Chapter 5: How did the players react to Voss's last game?
My word, I'm around, he said. Let's speak to Level 5, Studio 4. We are on. We are here. The other voice that you can hear is a man who broke the story this morning just prior to 7.30. His name is Tom Morris, having a huge year, dressed a little bit sharper than us. Tom, thank you for stopping by as well.
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Chapter 6: What are the implications of Carlton's coaching changes?
How are we here? Emergency fireball.
How did we get here? So the dialogue between Chris Davies, the footy boss at Carlton, and Graeme Wright and Michael Voss has been very open all season. They've been talking on a weekly basis, having meetings, so that if and when the time came that Voss needed to be sacked or that he decided to resign, nothing would come as a shock to either party.
So there's a mutual breakup and there's a mutual breakup. I mean, let's be honest. If Vos got offered another year on his deal, he would have said yes. So he knew he wasn't going on again. This was determined finally last week. He coached against Brisbane knowing that would be his last game as senior coach of Carlton. And then it was revealed this morning that it's been public and he will...
speak to the players this afternoon in person. He was at St Haven gym this morning doing weights when it broke that he will be, he's resigning as coach. So, you know, there's mutual decisions and there's mutual decisions. I think in the end, this is one that both parties are relatively content with given the situation the club finds itself in.
Players had no knowledge that was going to be his last game? Not even Patrick Cripps. No, players had no knowledge as far as I can tell. It was very tightly held and that's the way it's played out. Full play out for the rest of the year? Yeah, it's only five, what is it, five, six months. Yeah, so very early.
In fact, it's exactly the same round as Adam Kingsley, sorry, Leon Cameron was sacked at the Giants, round nine. So they get a 14 or 15 week window. Josh Fraser, one of the assistant coaches who arrived late last year, Had a meeting with Chris Davies at 7.30 this morning or just after 7.30 to confirm that he'll take over as the interim coach for the rest of the year.
Was it brought forward because of the Tasmanian coaching discussion?
No, I don't think it had anything to do with any other club. Once it was finally determined that he wouldn't get a new deal, then it was up to Michael Voss how he wanted this to play out.
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Chapter 7: Who are the potential candidates to replace Voss?
And he resigned with his head held high, also understanding that, in essence, his stint as Carlton coach has been a failure. And this is part of the Carlton DNA. Kane and Kingy, is it the right call?
yes it's the right call but it was the wrong call to let him have this year it was the wrong call the minute they released that statement saying that michael voss would coach into next year with no guarantees about his future beyond that as soon as they traded away the senior players as soon as they started sniffing around according to you and the other good news breakers around the competition that they were in the market for another coach or certainly sounding out craig mccray and maybe others that we don't know about
It set him up to fail. What a horrible position for him to be in. Now, clearly, Kingy, we can speak to Vossi's faults in all of this. He'll never coach again. He'll never be a senior coach again. He's not going to get that opportunity now. He's had one at Brisbane. He went and did a long second apprenticeship at other clubs. He got the second opportunity. So that's it now for him.
He'll never be a senior coach again. But Carlton set him up to fail. We've landed in the right spot, but we've landed here eight to nine months too late.
It's never done well. I don't know of one sacking that's ever done well, that's ever perfect. Information gets out ahead of time. The moment, and you were on to this early, Cornsy, credit to you. The moment they had some sort of discussion, off record, second person removed to Craig McRae, he was gone. And he should have said, hey, if you're seeing other people, I'm out. You've made your call.
You've made your decision. Have the balls to pay me out. He should have done that immediately and stood his ground. And now you want to trade Curnow? You know what? I don't want to trade Curnow.
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Chapter 8: What does the future hold for Carlton's coaching direction?
So are we rebuilding or are we trying to win games of footy? You got me here to win games of footy? Well, give me the players. And then they've almost, in my opinion, almost forced him to play a false brand of footy. Vossi is a contest coach. This is the reason you got to a prelim, what, in 23, because it was defence and contest. And that is how he coaches.
So now we want to see if he can coach the modern game. This list can't play the way the Sydney Swans play. It can't do what Brisbane does.
so at every point over the last 12 months he's been set up to fail now this is not doesn't absolve michael voss he he's he's not with the best coaches in the comp and in the end it's about the gaps and you get the ass off the back of those gaps and the problems you haven't been able to solve so the contest stuff is great but you lose you sort of lose that and you've never been able to transition the ball so you've never been able to move the ball and yep part of that is personnel but
through the time in the game, he hasn't been able to solve that issue that we all see, that we've all spoken about, that he has not been able to solve. And that is on him.
But he's never been that coach, right? So you lack authenticity then as a coach, don't you? Because you know you're standing at the front of the group and you're saying, oh, I really value this. And they go, oh, I don't know if you do, but there you go.
i've been here for three years value that that and that that's the point so the players respected michael voss they admired michael voss but did they rate him as a coach and i would argue the answer to that is broadly no so how much did everything else play into this now in the end you're going to say wins and losses the minute finals are off the agenda bang make the call no worries but it's been a shocking 12 uh six months in this so it's been from the sam doherty stuff which which i think hurt bossy a little bit like for
Fresh out of the game, former captain, held in high regard, essentially telling everyone how to beat Carlton. And Vossie hadn't been able to solve that. And then the Elijah Holland stuff, which he didn't handle well. There's no doubt about that, but it's a tough spot for any coach to be in.
I'm not sure how any coach would have handled it, but certainly his comments after the game have aged poorly.
Yep.
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