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First Thoughts - Round 6 (20.04.26)

19 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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Let's move on and we'll talk some footy because it was an unbelievable round of football, an excellent round of football, some great games. My first thoughts go to the Saints and Ross Lyons' media performance post that game. Here he is.

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15.717 - 37.075 Ross Lyon

Yeah, so I think from where we're trying to get to, out of the bottom reaches of the ladder or the middle or whatever you want to call it, I think five out of our first six opponents... they've all been finalists, prelim, back-to-back premiers and finalists by one. And we've been in all of those games. I would think if you take out win-loss, we've improved.

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Chapter 2: What were Ross Lyon's key remarks during the press conference?

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I'm not going to let him get away with that, Kingy, if you take out Wynlott. Now, it's not under 12s where they don't keep score. We actually keep score for a reason. And we all love the guy. Don't need to say it. I say that every time I'm going to give him some criticism. But Saints fans can't cop that. You can't cop, take out, win, loss, and we've improved.

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And you can't reference last year to this year. Just because a team was good last year doesn't mean they're good this year. So they've beaten the Giants, who are 14th this year. Not last year. The Giants by four points. They're 14th, the Giants. They won two games. They've beaten Port Adelaide. Don't worry about where Port Adelaide were last year. They're 12th this year.

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That's who you have beaten. You've lost to Brisbane, who are 9th. Adelaide who are 10th and Melbourne who are 8th. That's who you've lost to. So I'm just not going to cop, take out the scoreboard and we've improved. You copping that? Have they improved? No. They haven't improved. Well, Kingy, they've got a percentage of 92. They're 13th. Is that improvement?

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Well, it's very early to be... No, at this point of the season, have they improved?

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112.836 - 114.558 Kingy

I think they're playing a better brand of footy, yeah.

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That's not leading to improved performance on the ladder.

120.425 - 136.771 Kingy

That's what he's saying. If you go with wins and loss, that's what you'll end up with. You'll end up talking about that. I think there's some truth in what he's saying. Now, how you get that across, you can argue... You can argue he's gone too aggressive at the journalists. You can argue that he is confrontational. And you can just disagree with him, right?

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You can't take out the scoreboard, though. You can't. Like, they've got the 12th best percentage of any team. So if percentage is a good measure for, you know, if you want to take out wins and losses, some people use percentage to give you a good indication of where you're at. They've got the 12th best percentage. What did they have last year?

156.057 - 158.32 Kingy

I'd have to look that up. Well, we're talking about improvement.

Chapter 3: How have the Saints improved this season according to the analysis?

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Why can they do it?

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245.63 - 268.549 Kingy

I think you're too forgiving of Ross. Don't make it about me. Your question was, do you think the Saints have improved? I think they have improved. You can argue who they've played and where they are on the ladder, but after six weeks, to me, the ladder's only just started to get real now. The Kangaroos are not a fifth best team in the comp, but on the ladder, it says they're fifth. No.

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But I think it's fair and reasonable to say you should be beating those teams around you with the investment that you've made and where you're at on this journey with Ross Lyon as coach. You could have got one of Collingwood. You could have got one of Melbourne. You could have got one of Brisbane. You could have got one of Adelaide in a winning position. Agree with all that.

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And I'm not copying that it's under 12s and we don't keep score is my point.

288.518 - 307.76 Kingy

You got some first thoughts for us? You should be proud today because the taggers are back. We're now tagging the best players in the comp. It's nice, isn't it? Marcus Bontempelli hasn't been tagged for bloody 10 years. That's nice. And got mulling on the weekend and got taken. I actually, as strange as this is to say, I don't reckon he handled it very well. No.

308.101 - 318.533 Kingy

I reckon he created two-on-ones when you don't want him created two-on-ones. You want him to be the clearance beast that he's always been. And I think it rattled him a little bit. Five kicks. Never seen him rattled.

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No, it is really interesting how even the best players can get rattled. And the hubris of some of the coaches that think they don't need to do it makes me laugh. If Chris Scott is the best coach in it and he's doing it, And Damien Harbeck sitting there going, no, we don't need it. We don't need a tag. And the best opposition midfield against Gold Coast dominate every single game.

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I find that funny. Like if it's good enough for Sydney, who are flying at the moment, to have James Jordan go to someone every week and have that at least in your arsenal.

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