Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
Breakfast with Gary and Tim.
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Welcome, as always, 1300 736 736 if you want to give us a call and 0433 98 1116 if you want to kick the old temper text into gear. As I say, good morning to the Wisp, the Hall of Fame superstar from the Estonian Football Club, Tim Watson. Good morning, Gary. Good morning, everybody. Very much looking forward to joining you from Epping.
He's going to provide a tribute for Scott Penelbury this morning, I believe. Is he?
Chapter 2: Who are the guests joining Garry and Tim?
He's written a very, very moving tribute to Scott Penelbury this morning. Nice, nice, nice. A beautiful, beautiful piece. Did you drive up this morning, or have you been in the big smoke for a couple, for a day? I've been in the big smoke for a day. I came up here yesterday. I went out and saw my old mate, Cooker, and...
I want to touch on this, okay, because it moves me every time I'm introduced to something like this or part of this, and that is that like when I went there yesterday, his old mate Barry Capuana, who they played premiership football back in the 1960s and were teammates there, he's there, right? So what he's done, he's gone and he's found photos and pictures of of Alec. Alec's got Alzheimer's.
For those that don't know who I'm talking about, Alec Eppes, who used to play football at Essendon. He's 88 years of age. They played in the 60 premiership teams together. So he's gone. And he's photocopied old photos of him, put them in a folder so that you can present them to him and so they can talk about him.
He had a medallion that had been presented to the players, the past players, because when they didn't get premiership medallions back in the day, so he had Alex's medallion, which we gave him. Nice. It was just... It was a beautiful thing, and he's still got old mates like, you know, Johnny Burt still visits him, and Ken Fraser did the same thing and wrote a poem about him that he read to him.
Did he? He shows everybody, and you read it to him. It's a beautiful thing. It is a beautiful thing, and Don McKenzie, who's another old teammate, he rang me the other day. He's got some health issues as well, so he rang me, but just make sure that, you know, Alex got some money and everything's being looked after. Yeah, yeah. That is so good. It just moves you. It just is a beautiful thing.
What an uplifting way to start this program. And you, I don't want to embarrass you, but the way you've been with Alec since I've known you has been quite incredible, which leads me to something that made me really, really proud and actually moved me, our old concrete hearts that we have over the journey. I just sensed something about the Melbourne Footy Club.
And Jai Cully, the young guy, a recruit who's played really good football, really good footy and then did his knee out of knee reconstruction, his second knee reconstruction.
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Chapter 3: What tribute is Tim Watson preparing?
So he's bought a house apparently. And I think, I don't know, I might have the day wrong. So yesterday was moving day. So he had to move in. And so he's on crutches having had the recall and he's sitting there waiting for the removalist. So they booked the removalist to come into his new house.
And then he looks up and there's Jack Viney in the Melbourne property truck with 18 of his teammates that arrived on his doorstep and said, we cancelled the removalist. We're going to do it. Let's get to work. Yeah, that's fantastic.
How good is that?
That is great. That is a great story. That's as good as anything I've heard this year. Not because it's Melbourne. I mean, people obviously can see through that. That means your footy club's going okay when those sorts of things are happening, I reckon. Yeah, no, it does. It does. And it's a lifetime connection that people have as well.
Like when I talk about sort of like the Alec and the old players and how they look after each other still and make call on each other, make sure each other's okay. David Shaw's been doing that too. I forgot to mention that, but- And Scotty Lucas is often there sitting there talking to Cooker and Glenn Manton and players from a different era too.
Cooker introduced himself to different players from all the different eras over a period of time. And they all just jump on board and go and see him and visit him. But that would be true of football club and connection that people had right across Australia. Yeah, right across the country, though.
Send them through.
Send through these sorts of examples just to fill our cup and warm our heart. 043-98-1116. There are things going on in the footy world that make me really proud right now. The Essendon example with Alec Epik. Alec Epis, and also from what I saw yesterday with all the Melbourne boys turning up to help a mate move into his new house. I think that's outstanding.
Hey, yesterday we talked about hard luck stories for horse owners or greyhound owners.
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Chapter 4: How do football clubs support their former players?
And his trial form was outstanding. And on this particular day, I think it was in Kilmore or something, I was going to have it stay boo. So... And Simon went up to back it. He said, this is going to win. So I raced home from training. Ashburton TAB, I remember as clear as day, ran in, put my 50 bucks, 100 bucks, whatever it was, sat there and watched a parade.
And then the bloke's going, oh, this is a well-bred horse with some sporting people in the syndicate and reeled off the names. And I'm sort of sitting there going, oh, yeah. And they leg the jockey up. And as soon as he got on his back, the horse laid down. It just laid down on its side, Tim. And the commentator goes, oh, no, there's a problem with Saturday Sport. It's, oh, no, it's back up now.
The jockey's off. Oh, no, something must have happened there. Oh, this well-bred horse, you know, owned by David Hooks. Get the jockey back up. They leg the jockey up and it just laid down again. Didn't want to run. On its side. And that was the end of the horse. Did you fix it? Did you work out why it was doing this?
If Simon O'Donnell's listening, he's never, ever lived that down, ever in his life. He reckons he was at the parade ring watching it and just slowly slunk away into the crowd. So some nightmare stories. I purchased a ready-to-race Greyhound. It was running that night at 10.30. It cost me $500 for a share. I sat up to watch it, came last, and dropped dead as it crossed the line.
Well, that's a tragedy. That is a tragedy. That person, that's not great. I had shares in a horse running at Boxing Day races in Wodonga. It was scratched as the jockey was two kilograms over due to a huge Christmas lunch. LAUGHTER I had a really promising horse. Oh, no, it's a tragedy. It drowned in the water walking machine.
I said to the train, he rang me, he said, it drowned in the water walking machine. I said, you don't train Usain Bolt in the 100-meter pool. Fair enough. Oh, they can invent ways to injure themselves out there, the horses too. They can indeed. Yeah, it was Ana Vista who whispered, Mick Price train. Ana Vista. Yes. Remember him doing the up guy? That's right. We used to play Mick's updates.
We did. Oh, we did too. On the phone. Oh, that was back in the day, wasn't it? Hey, can you help out somebody I know, right? So this guy doesn't have a lot of hair, but he likes to get a haircut with what's left around the edges, right? You just like to be pampered. Well, he does. He likes a pampering. So he doesn't have a booking at the hairdresser.
He just drops into the local barber as you can. So he goes past his local barber shop yesterday. He's about to walk in. He sees another bloke already in there having his hair cut. So he thinks, okay. I'll just go down the street. I'll get myself a cup of coffee. I'll wait 20, 30 minutes. I'll come back. So he goes back. The other bloke's gone, right?
But then the barber says to him, this is a true story. The barber says to him, you know who that bloke was that was sitting in the chair, don't you? And he said, nah. And they said, I didn't really take much notice of him. Pendles. Scott Pendlebury was in there having a haircut for his big day at the weekend.
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Chapter 5: What strategies do media teams use to manage narratives?
Anticipate what's going to be asked. And they can anticipate. They've got media teams around them. They can dance around it. And this is a story. This nonsense has been written about you.
Chapter 6: How do relationships between coaches and media influence coverage?
This is what's going to come up. Kevin Sheedy-Mogg, he was a master at this because he would manipulate them because he understood the media and the media wants something, right? So he would then say, okay, well, I'll get there. I'll say something, but I'll say it to my advantage because it's what I want to plant out there and that's the thing I want people to be talking about.
So if you're smart enough, you can actually use it to your advantage. How much backgrounding goes on?
Chapter 7: Who are the trusted figures in the coaching fraternity?
Get me behind the curtain. How much do the coach identify one or two members of the media that become their men and they background them and they give them a little heads up? Men or women, by the way. Yeah, I think that would be ā I think that there would be relationships that would be formed over a period of time. Did you have one? Did you have a couple of your go-tos?
I wasn't there long enough, Gary, to form a long-lasting relationship with anybody. Who would your go-to be this year if you went back in the coaching fraternity and you had to just back around one or two just to have in your corner?
Chapter 8: What are the implications of player injuries on team performance?
Who could you trust? I think I could trust Jay-Z. Straight to the Jay-Z man. I think he's building a little Jay-Z empire out there too. So I could trust him. Who else could I trust? Caro. Caro. I've had a checkered past with Caro.
I know.
I would need to repair some parts of that. Better to have her onside than offside. So you'd surely work that relationship to make sure that she's onside. I don't know about that. Kano, I think given how powerful he is in the media now, I think you'd have to try and spend a bit of time with Kano and just background Kano. Sam Mitchell style.
I think there's a few people out there working Kano at the moment. No, he doesn't get worked. He can't be bought. No, I'm not saying he's bought, but I think there are people that have fireside chats with him, which is why he becomes bigger and more powerful in the media industry. And good on him for doing it. If in fact he doesn't. You've come up with Jay-Z. That's all you've come up with.
Have I? Yeah. Oh, well, Mitch Cleary. I've got people who I trust who I've worked alongside. So I could certainly, if you needed to, if you want to play that game, I'd never thought that, I thought that was a bit of a dangerous game maybe to play with people out there. Right. But I don't know whether Kevin, I don't know whether she's actually played that game.
I think he pretty much treated everybody the same. I've just got my trusted five. I know you've got your trusted five. That's it. And you're not in it. And I'm desperate to be in it or have it extended to the trusted six. 7.30 news headlines.
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