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Garry and Tim - Full Show - Tuesday June 16 (16.06.26)

15 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

0.031 - 1.817 Garry Lyon

Breakfast with Gary and Tim.

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Well, it's alright Riding around in the breeze Well, it's alright

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12.383 - 35.32 Tim Watson

Morning everyone, welcome. Tuesday, June the 16th. It is very big McCafe menu. Try McCafe's new drinks range. Stephen King, the coach of the Demons, to join us out of 7 o'clock. What a story they've been this year. Brandon and Craig Starcevich in the studio out of 8 o'clock. Questions without notice, your calls, Tuesday takeaways. So much to talk about since last we spoke.

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35.38 - 38.205 Tim Watson

Wispy Watson's in the studio with me. Thank the Lord.

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38.185 - 60.582 Garry Lyon

Hello, Whisper. Good morning, Gary. Good morning, everybody. Where do you start? Where do you start after, I think it was the greatest Sunday of sport that we've ever, ever witnessed in this country, certainly in my lifetime, Gary. In your lifetime? In my lifetime, there has never been a better day of sitting and viewing sport than what last Sunday. Take me through it.

60.562 - 66.807 Garry Lyon

Take me through your Sunday. My Sunday was the NBA, the final game as it turned out.

66.827 - 69.85 Tim Watson

What time did you get up? Did you have snacks? Would you have breakfast?

69.87 - 73.874 Garry Lyon

No, no, no. It was just pure sport. It was the purity of the whole thing.

73.894 - 75.575 Tim Watson

What time did that start, the basketball?

Chapter 2: What were the highlights of the recent sports weekend?

115.724 - 125.781 Garry Lyon

I was crying at one stage when the Knicks, and I saw Jalen Brunson. Why were you crying? Jalen Brunson started crying. You don't barrack for the Knicks. I know I don't. I was barracking for the Spurs.

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125.982 - 132.132 Tim Watson

For me, in fact, fingers was one of the most emotional. I waited all my life for that NBA title.

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132.112 - 149.618 Garry Lyon

Jonah, he could not get a word out. Post-game, that post-game interview, he tried to answer the question, but he could not actually get a word out of his mouth. And then his eyes started to well up, and I saw some tears trickling down his cheek, and I was fighting them back as well.

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150.42 - 155.187 Tim Watson

And then after that... When the Socceroos came out, you broke down like a baby and bawled your eyes out.

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155.207 - 165.241 Garry Lyon

Well, that gets me too. And then we had such an unbelievable performance there, and Beachy... Goodness me. What a goalkeeping performance from Bucci.

165.261 - 189.152 Tim Watson

0-4-3-9-8-11-16. What was the best thing that you watched on the weekend? I mean, the Knicks was unbelievable because that had been a long, long time coming. But you can't. You can barrack for the Knicks, but you're not. They're an American team. The Socceroos was the one. We were all on our WhatsApp text. It was flying around and it was going nuts.

189.132 - 208.232 Garry Lyon

Yeah, but did you not watch part of the NBA as well? No, watch it. I'm a rusted on Knicks fan. I know, but the NBA series, you can get about a lot of the junk stuff that they play in the home and away stuff. When you get to the end of it all, it's on the line like that. So you had the Knicks over the Socceroos? No, no, I didn't. No, no, I didn't. No. But I'm just saying. Sounds like it.

208.392 - 224.173 Garry Lyon

I'm just saying how unbelievably emotionally charged that weekend of sport was, particularly the Sunday. And then the AFL game between St Kilda and the Giants was a great game. Well, thank God. It was a fascinating, interesting game of football to watch as well.

224.354 - 242.578 Tim Watson

I don't even look at the drawer and I was... Sort of waiting all weekend to see whether Carlton's run was going to continue. They didn't play. Then one of my favourite teams to watch these days is the Dockers. I was looking forward to seeing Caleb Strong back. They didn't play. The Wizard Watson is one of my other. They didn't play. And then I thought, oh, Nicky Dacos will get me.

Chapter 3: How did the hosts feel about the emotional aspects of sports?

270.525 - 284.412 Garry Lyon

What did I say? You said that it is Brunson and not Wemby. You said that. I did say that. On this radio program, you said that. I can get it out? Well, you don't need to get it out, and you don't need to find the other part of it as well. But you-

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284.392 - 313.875 Garry Lyon

were right you were 100% right about that and I saw you know I don't know whether or not your dad I don't know where the panch was I know Bev was hot on sportsmanship but I don't know where the panch was hot on sportsmanship as kids we had this drummed into us the worst thing that you could do in life was be a bad sport right and then at the end of that game at the end of that game when Wemby just walked straight off the court he's lost me for all time there is nothing he can ever do in

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313.855 - 332.984 Garry Lyon

And he can never do anything for the rest of his career that will win me back after that. You old fella made a mistake. Cut him some slack. No, that's not a mistake. That is just bad to the core sportsmanship to walk off the court like that and not acknowledge your opponents. Don't they all do that? No, they don't. You watch the NBA more than me. No, they do.

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333.004 - 337.872 Garry Lyon

They do it in some of the playoff games before it's been decided they do that.

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337.892 - 340.656 Tim Watson

I've seen LeBron just walk straight.

340.636 - 356.984 Garry Lyon

Well, I don't applaud that either. Then if that's the case, I've never seen him do that. But if you can't recognize the accomplishments of your opponents and the fact that you've lost and therefore you should acknowledge them, you should shake their hand, you should give them a nice old cuddle, whatever it might be. Yeah, when it's finished for sure.

357.304 - 361.952 Garry Lyon

And that it is just such bad, poor form and behavior.

361.932 - 365.997 Tim Watson

What about Lewis Hamilton winning his first race in a Ferrari?

366.178 - 366.879 Garry Lyon

I missed all that.

Chapter 4: What are the implications of recent coaching discussions?

587.462 - 589.146 Garry Lyon

In Germany? Yes. Would that be?

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589.567 - 614.358 Tim Watson

Yeah. Yeah. To see all that big chunk of the ground, it was cool. It was really cool. And we're getting no criticism, which suggests to me that people have matured. We know we're not rusted on soccer fans, but right now- Oh, we're invested now, though. Invested. And I tell you what- I actually missed that guy. I'll have to confess. I missed it. The first one? Yeah. Where were you?

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614.378 - 620.005 Tim Watson

I went upstairs to get something, and I heard a scream from downstairs, and I had to sprint back down.

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619.985 - 644.804 Garry Lyon

You know what I loved? Because we had our group WhatsApp going at the time, your commentary around the events and what you were seeing and how it was unfolding, unbelievable. Your ability to pick up the threads of a game that you're not necessarily- What part of it? I started early. I started inside eight seconds.

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644.824 - 647.427 Tim Watson

I just sent the first message to get us all up and going.

647.447 - 648.428 Garry Lyon

Yeah, we need to do this.

648.708 - 651.671 Tim Watson

There's only one of us on our WhatsApp who knew anything about it, really.

651.691 - 668.769 Garry Lyon

No, you understood the defensive formation better than anybody on our WhatsApp at that stage. You said, okay, if everyone in the piece, you said, we're going to have to score on the counter-attacking and 100%- Did I say that? Yeah, that's exactly what you said. I can't remember. No, you did. You read it beautifully.

668.809 - 684.309 Tim Watson

You know who I love? I love the big captain, Souter. Souter. Yeah. He stood tall. He did. He's tall. He's a big man. This is in contrast to your small man, the small guys. What did you say? It's a great year.

Chapter 5: What issues does Dimmer face regarding umpiring?

3630.737 - 3649.8 Tim Watson

See, Con, I think this is what happens here. You hear what you want to hear. I've never pushed James Heard. All I'm looking at it is from an Essendon point of view saying if they don't give him the opportunity to present, then you're going to end up in the same situation two or three years down the track. I'm not pushing anyone, Con. I couldn't honestly care less.

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3650.24 - 3651.902 Tim Watson

This is what you wanted on Dimmer.

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3652.068 - 3653.85 Steven King

Oh, it was good. Swanee's a cracker.

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3654.231 - 3671.092 Garry Lyon

You've got to love him, and that's why he's a great football person. And, look, he's doing his job, and obviously the umpires were disappointed, and I've got to be better with that. I understand that. But he also understood from, you know, I'm there to protect my players and try and get the game played or looked at in a certain way.

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3671.252 - 3681.265 Garry Lyon

But I understood the conversation we had, and to his credit, he was very understanding of my point, but he made it very, very clear, Swanee, that I understood the mark and...

3681.633 - 3702.983 Tim Watson

So he didn't have to apologise as such, but conceded that he was wrong, conceded he's a bad loser, appreciated the fact that Swanee treated him like a man, didn't shoot off emails or text messages, rang him up, had a conversation with him man to man and said, it's not good enough and we don't accept it. And he said, righto, I cop it. Is that the right way to go about it?

3702.963 - 3714.315 Garry Lyon

That is the right way to go about it. And the fact that he also said, I was really happy that he didn't send me an email or I didn't get some sort of other notification from the AFL. It was man on man.

Chapter 6: How do players react to umpiring decisions in different sports?

3714.335 - 3720.521 Garry Lyon

That's when he just calling me up and saying, okay, this is the state of play and I'm a bad loser. That's what he said.

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Chapter 7: What is the significance of player suspensions in AFL?

3720.682 - 3736.123 Garry Lyon

I'm a bad loser. I overstepped the mark. I've had a phone call from my mom. She knows that I'm a bad loser. It's something I'm continuing to work on. If he hasn't been able to solve it by now, I'm saying that we're going to see some more slip-ups from Demmer down the track. I think that should be brought in as well.

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3736.424 - 3751.29 Tim Watson

A bad loser? No, all coaches need to get a phone call from their mum the day after their press conferences just to straighten them up. The footy news for Ian Reid Buyer and Vendor Advocates. Ian Reid Vendor Advocates.

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Go on, ring us.

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3754.195 - 3763.114 Tim Watson

Great to have you with us. Very, very big show and coming up very shortly, the Starseviches in the studio. Yes, what have you got? I'm in the air.

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3763.194 - 3771.732 Garry Lyon

I don't know. Con, you and media were pushing Heard. Con. Wow, that's rubbish. I don't think that's correct.

3771.712 - 3795.998 Tim Watson

You've misjudged the fact that we talked about James Heard a lot with pushing him for the job of the Essendon Footy Club. You've misinterpreted the fact that James Heard became a massive issue and we talked about him a lot and the groundswell of support for him. So we were conveying to you, Con, what was going on. It's not my... That is not... That's not your choice. No, that's not.

3796.018 - 3814.903 Tim Watson

But no one cares what I think about Essendon. That's not my choice. But I do think that they are backed into a bit of a corner, the Bombers, when it comes to James Hurd. That's what I'm getting at, Con. Anyway, you don't have to... agree with what we're saying, we can just tell you and then you can choose to listen or not listen.

3815.183 - 3837.088 Garry Lyon

We talk occasionally about players' reaction in AFL football to the umpires and whether or not they show a lot of emotion after decisions and stuff like that. I'm staggered. Having watched the NBA finals again and just going back to this, are NBA basketballs the most disrespectful to officials in world sports?

3837.068 - 3860.28 Garry Lyon

Do you know of another sport in the world where the participants in a game react to umpiring decisions and brush past officials on the court and that type of thing like basketballers do in the NBA? I'm staggered that they get away with the behavior that they do. I don't think even soccer players do. They show disgust. They crowd up on the umpires all the time. Yeah.

Chapter 8: How does the new Club Scout platform benefit players and clubs?

3866.38 - 3883.947 Garry Lyon

Yeah, maybe, but I still think they're short of the way that the NBA players interact with the officials. Now, maybe it's a cultural thing about the sport that's been accepted over a long period of time, but it is something that jumps out at you when you start to take particular notice of it.

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3884.227 - 3906.07 Tim Watson

Yes. 0-4-double-3-9-8-11-16. We've got lines open between, and 1-300-736-736 between now and 8 o'clock. The show is yours. We can do a little questions out now, so we can hit a couple of hot topics we need to get to. The Starseviches will be in at 8 o'clock as well. But there's so much going on. On the other side of this, I think you and I are going to have a disagreement, which is fine.

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3906.19 - 3919.657 Tim Watson

What we do is disagree respectfully with one another. We don't have to agree with each other all the time. Sometimes we don't. Right. And you're wrong and I'm right. But that's... I think we're going to disagree on Paul Curtis on the other side of the break.

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3919.677 - 3923.122 Garry Lyon

I think you've got to take the boy off. Breakfast with Gary and Tim.

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3923.383 - 3943.114 Tim Watson

No topic off-limit here. 1-300-736-736. You can ring up, ask any question you'd like. It's questions without notice here. Paul Curtis has copped a three-game suspension for his tackle on the West Coast lad whose name escapes me at the moment. This is the second time he's been suspended. What say you?

3943.617 - 3960.477 Garry Lyon

I thought it was the correct decision. I think he's got to modify his technique and his behaviours around that. In circumstances where somebody doesn't end up with their head banged into the turf, it might have been the perfect tackle, but it's not because somebody does end up like that.

3960.577 - 3966.684 Tim Watson

Actually, it's a very good point. It was a perfect tackle initially. Hamish Davis was the player's name. So this is what I'm trying to get my head around.

3966.704 - 3968.566 Garry Lyon

So why do you think that he shouldn't have been?

3969.087 - 3972.831 Tim Watson

No, no, I think it's a suspension, but all I want to...

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