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Garry and Tim - Full Show - Tuesday May 12 (12.05.26)

11 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

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Breakfast with Gary and Tim. Well, it's all right. Riding around in the breeze. Well, it's all right. If you live the life you please. Well, it's all right. Good morning, everyone. Welcome. Tuesday, May the 12th. It is the McCafe menu. Try McCafe's drink range. We've got Tommy Morris with all the news. He's in Field March. Not available today. So Tommy Morris steps up. Tuesday takeaways.

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We've got the Ramble.

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Chapter 2: What updates are shared about Tommy Morris and the news?

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We've got Mark Harrison, the CEO of Australian Prostate Centre on the Legends game. Talk to him. Good morning, everybody.

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30.975 - 31.816 Garry Lyon

Great to be here.

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Foggy out there this morning, so be careful on the roads. I've just driven up from Shoreham this morning, and it was a bit soupy on the way up this morning. Yeah, my dad had the chill on the frost on the car as well when he woke up, so good advice.

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Chapter 3: What is the significance of the Legends game mentioned?

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Be very careful. Got a big show. Can't wait. 0433 98 11 16 1300 736 736. Get involved. We haven't seen each other since last Thursday, so we've got a lot to get through this morning. Welcome, Whispers. Welcome to you, Gary. No, that's okay. You had to sneeze. That's fine. I had a nice little... What did I have? A nice little meal this morning. What did we have? Oh, I like the muesli. The muesli.

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What is it called? Well, you would soak the oats overnight. What is that? It's your favourite meal, you said. I love that. On death row, you said this is the meal that you'd eat. What's it called? When you soak the oats overnight. It's got fruit. It's got chia seeds. Nicky spent three days doing that for me. And raspberries on top. Bircher.

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Bircher.

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It was a lovely bircher. A lovely, lovely bircher. I don't usually eat before six. It's just filled my tummy up. Well, I don't normally eat until about 10, 30, 11 o'clock.

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100.683 - 101.044 Garry Lyon

Same.

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So I'm cooked now for the rest of the day. That was beautiful. Can you pass on my thanks to Nikki? That was absolutely amazing. She's been in good cooking form because last night she made a chicken and leek pie. Oh, that sounds good. You make them in the little metal pie tins. Yes. So you don't have to put... Because pastry can... You don't have to put pastry all around.

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You only just put the pastry on the top. And then the chopped up chicken and some leeks and some stock. Is it a light flaky pastry on top? Beautiful flaky pastry, yeah. Magnificent. That is magnificent. And good on you. You've been here, there and everywhere over the weekend. You flew up to... Brisbane, the secret thing that you did last Thursday to catch up with John O'Brown.

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Did you share a seat on the way up there with Johnny Ralph? Was he on the same flight as you or was he on a different flight? What do you mean? I've just been reading. Did he interview John Brown too or not? No, no. He's just a pointer to tonight's documentary. It's on at 7.30. Ah, right. It's an unbelievable story, John Brown. Given a nice bit of publicity around this whole thing, haven't they?

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Yes, they have, Tim. The publicists have been at work. They've done a great job. He's quite an incredible man. We love him. We know what he's like, but this will... This will tell you what sort of a bloke he really is in terms of that's when you find out about yourself, when the biggest challenges, you're confronted with your biggest challenges.

Chapter 4: How does the conversation shift towards health and wellness?

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Oscar. Oscar. Well done. Oscar has sent it through. Go on, what is it? Superbad. It's a team, a team comedy. Jonah Hill's in that. Yeah, I know he's in that. Wisp reckons Superbad's the funniest movie he's ever seen. Send them through. Ah, The Adventures of Barry McKenzie.

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508.1 - 508.661 Garry Lyon

Oh, that's funny.

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Can you remember that? Yeah, we were never allowed to watch that. That was a bit rude for us. Hey, how'd you go with Mother's Day? Did you celebrate? Yes, ish. Yeah, ish. Did you cook something special? I did. I made a nice pasta. Yeah? Yeah, lovely pasta with some pork, some shoulder of pork that had been left over from the night before. Oh, magnificent it was. It was magnificent.

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Pulled pork into the pasta? Yes. I reheated it, recooked it, then folded it in with a bit of pancetta. What sort of base? Tomato base. I had some passata. I had some other bits and pieces of tomato, a little bit of onion in there, a nice bit of, as I said, pancetta, and then a beautiful penne pasta. It was magnificent. Just a little bit of that.

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I copper-messed that olive oil, just dribbled that on top. You know what I did? I don't know if it worked out that particularly well, actually, but you know the crackle from the pork? Yeah. I had some crackle. I'd kept some crackle from the night before. I reheated that and then just sort of cut it up into little pieces and sort of sprinkled it over the top like a pangrattata.

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Oh, now you're showing off. If you don't mind. Now you're showing off. Oh, some magnificent nominations coming through. Simple question, the funniest movie ever made. Outstanding film knowledge, Tim. Superbad is 10 out of 10. You should watch Hot Rod. Is that a follow-up, is it? I don't know. Thank you, Andrew. You know the other one I really like? I love Steve Carell. 40-year-old virgin? Yes.

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If you're a fan of Steve Carell, and that film is great, but then you can also – he's on the hang with Amy Poehler. They have a conversation for about an hour. He's funny. He doesn't try and be funny. He doesn't try – He doesn't do bits. He's just funny. He just has this- What's the podcast called? It's called The Hang. I think it's called The Hang with Amy Pollock. He's on there for now.

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It's funny. And they're old mates too, so they've got a real familiarity about it. Yes, Geoff, that's right. He said Geoff was in the shop across the road from Fox Friday night, went to get an ice cream. They're out of stock. I went and shouted everyone ice creams. And let me tell you, Geoffrey, that's not a cheap shout.

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When big Tommy Hawkins expects to get a honeycomb magnum, Jesus, not much change from a tenner these days. Hang on. Somebody said that they saw you buying upwards of 25 ice creams. You're buying for the whole crew. 25. Testing. No, no.

Chapter 5: What are the implications of Michael Voss's resignation from Carlton?

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They would love to be in there running for Zach Butters, but in his mind, it's been in the works for a year or more. So I don't think that would be the case down there, but I don't know the real choice. Yeah, look, it's an interesting one. So would Ken Inkley be a great appointment for the Tasmanian Devils as they started their journey in the AFL? I think he would. Yeah, no, I think he would.

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And I think all those, like if they, if it ended up being, I don't think Simmo wants the job down there, but if it was Simmo, if it was John Longmire, if it was Ken Hinkley, if it was Nathan Buckley, I mean, there's four great, great candidates with great experience and maybe they'll head down a completely different track. Yeah, no, that's right.

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Hey, EPL update, full-time Tottenham and Leeds have drawn one all. They played extra time, but Spurs are now two points clear of the relegation zone. They've got two games to play. Okay, I want to throw this out to you. This has come off the text, and this was something that was discussed last night, too, on the agenda setters about Scott Pendlebury.

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You blokes are either very naive or are choosing to ignore the real story with the Pendlebury deal. If Collingwood have paid him unders... Okay, this was the suggestion they went to Ned Kelly about. They've paid him unders, then allowing him to pay other players more money, and then top his pay up this year with a merch deal that's 1,000% a salary cap rule. That's a 1,000% a salary cap rule.

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That's from Benny at Brisbane. Okay, so... What he's saying is that they went to Scott Penelbury.

Chapter 6: How does the discussion shift to potential coaching candidates?

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They said, look, this is going to be an amazing year for you. There's going to be an opportunity to make a lot, a lot of money on merchandise and other things around you breaking the game's record. This is what we'll do. We'll pay you. But the AFL, I would think the AFL, because they've got access to all the contracts-

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If they smelt a rat around this, then it would be up to them, would it not, to investigate that part of it and then agree or not to agree for him to be allowed to take this money from merchandise and other marketing opportunities around him breaking the record. I know that, but all the messages are coming through along those lines. That is crazy to justify changing salary cap rule as a one-off.

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Every further breach will be argued with this precedent put forward. Or what's stopping anyone else getting kickback clauses in the contract? Butters, if you win a Brownlow with the Dogs, we're going to make Zach Butters Brownlow jumper and get 100% profits. Ben King, win the Coleman, we'll put the Coleman poster. I think the point is this.

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Unless it stacks up against the game's record holder in the history of AFL football, in the history of the game, not a willy-nilly Brownlow, Not a willy-nilly Coleman. We're talking, so if a player at your club, if the precedent is a player at your club in the future breaks the world record, the Australian record for AFL games played, guess what?

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We'll allow you to pay outside the salary cap any money that's raised as a result of it. Well, I don't really have a problem. I would probably put a – I think the AFL could put a cap on it. Like I say, yeah, you know, we will allow $250,000 outside the salary cap to go to Scott Pendlebury if indeed he breaks the games record hold.

Chapter 7: What is the significance of Scott Pendlebury's record-breaking game?

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Like if it ends up being a million bucks, well, then you might go, hmm, maybe. Hmm. But I don't have a problem with it up to a point. It would be a lot of money, though. This is – well, I'm not going to say it's unprecedented. This is – we've seen it with Boomer and we've seen it with Pendles in the last, what, however many years. And is anyone going to break it again? Maybe.

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But, gee, I don't know if we'll be still – Do them SEM breakfast. And would you be prepared? I'd be prepared for that person if they did break it to get that same compensation. I would be. Yeah. Yeah. I haven't got an issue.

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I would have a cap on it though, because who knows what's going to happen with- Well, maybe they do have a- College fans go nuts and footy fans go nuts and think this is never going to happen again in their lifetime. So we'll buy the wine and we'll buy the this and that and that and it just goes bunter. Is there a ceiling on it? But I think the wine is outside that anyway.

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Chapter 8: How do fans react to Carlton's coaching changes?

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I don't know. I'll only use that as an example. I understand what you're saying, but the wine is something that he's done before Pendles. So he's released limited edition wine before, which is not under the auspices of the Collingwood Football Club. I think that's a private thing. Wayne's in Auburn. He's been hanging on the line for a while. He wants to talk about Pendles. Good morning, Wayne.

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Good morning, boys. You're right, guys. There's a significant gap between what he's going to achieve and all those other awards he's had. What I was actually ringing about was, was about that. It's not unprecedented, you know, that sort of financial recognition to players. In the county cricket system in the UK, for years they've always had a benefit year.

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So they award a benefit year based on, you know, years of service if you've been a dedicated player there. a stalwart. They don't do too many of them. And it's the same, you know, with Penelope. If they do that, like you say, oh, well, it's got to be capped. But, you know, he's dedicated basically his whole adult life to that football club.

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And, you know, it's only true recognition, I would have thought, financial reward for that. But, you know, there is a significant gap, as you say, you know, what do we do if, you know, King gets a Coleman and, you know, Butters gets a Brown and blah, blah, blah. They are a fantastic team and but they're a significant distance away from breaking the all-time gains record.

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I think you make sense, Wayne, but not everyone agrees with you or I or Tim. Wrong, Gary, wrong. The rules are the rules. Well, I wonder whether the same... People who have got an issue with this were aware that up until 2022, there was a testimonial clause where you could earn up to $100,000 outside the salary cap for players, as Wayne is alluding to, happens in the county system.

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It happened at Melbourne for a couple of, I know we had a couple of testimonials for Rod Grinter and a few of those boys back in the day. And money raised went to them and up to $100,000. That was in place up until 2022. Did anyone have an issue with that? I don't think they, I don't think anybody did at the time. No, I don't. No, I don't think they had an issue with that.

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I know we need to take a break. Peter from Nary Warren, he doesn't like it either. That's simply not correct. You can't change the rules on the run. You can't have a rule for one and a rule for another. It'll be a lawyer's delight. It's just a rule for one, Pete. It's a rule for the person who breaks the game's record holder or the game's record. in the AFL, the one bloke that does that.

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So if Isaac Heaney does it, Pete, in another 10 years, then I'd be absolutely comfortable for the Sydney Swans to do the similar deal. And for all those people out there that are opposed to this, this is from a text message, the reaction's a joke. They usually, and this is true, they usually get 65% and he's getting an extra 35% on top.

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It's not like players usually get nothing for milestone merch. It's likely to be in the range of $50,000 to $100,000 at the most. The media scrutiny on Scott is a joke. Can't we just celebrate him? That would be something that I think a lot of people would concur with, that we just want to celebrate the fact that he's going to break the record. He called it media scrutiny.

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