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Sam Edmund, with all the news (23.04.26)

22 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 26.47 Gary Lyon

Breakfast with Gary and Tim What is that? That's not the sort of music we roll with here on SEN Breakfast. Wisp, what is that? Love it. I've got no idea, but I like it. It must be a newie, is it? It must be for our man that's wandered into the studio along with Sammy Ebbing. Nice to see you again, Samuel. Good to see you, Gary. Been a long time, has it? I forgot what you looked like.

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26.49 - 37.682 Gary Lyon

Pretty sure I saw you last Thursday. You didn't leave much of an impression. I couldn't remember that. And Lean Green Tom Green. No, Lean Clean Tom Green's in the studio having been to the Dua Lipa concert. I believe that was the music.

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37.662 - 40.966 Tom Green

That certainly was. It was great to hear. I appreciate that a lot. And thanks for having me again, boys.

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41.027 - 43.31 Gary Lyon

Where was it, this magnificent concert that you went to?

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43.33 - 49.057 Tom Green

It was at Kudos Bank Arena. It was a couple of years ago now, but I believe that did get a run and I was starstruck.

49.458 - 53.704 Gary Lyon

Yeah, well, it's not going to get another run on our program. I'll tell you right now.

53.744 - 61.214 Tom Green

Is that your style of music? Not generally, no. I make an exception for Dua Lipa. I do like some of her stuff, but not generally. Right.

61.234 - 67.404 Gary Lyon

So Lean Clean's with us for the hour. He was only going to come in at 20 past eight, but we thought, hey, he's here, get him in.

67.524 - 69.527 Sam Edmund

He was good last night on the agenda setters too.

Chapter 2: What recent news is there about Tyson Stengle?

254.052 - 274.185 Gary Lyon

I know what he's thinking behind it is. He's frustrated. And as I've said many times, they're so proud of what Tyson's been able to achieve, given that not everyone would be aware and understanding of his background. So... They view Tyson Stengel as an unbelievable success story. Already, yeah. At Geelong. That is true. And the fact that he's still involved in footy is...

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274.756 - 304.408 Sam Edmund

well it's an achievement for him and it's something that they are really really proud of yeah where he got to against the odds all the way through his formative years so so very difficult so to get to where he got to incredible but at the moment specifically to this he's a long long way from playing football right now and he has unfortunately lost and burned a lot of his closest allies to the point where not many of them are in touch with him anymore it's day to day it's week to week which means he can turn around the positive but at the moment all going down the negative path am I right in saying that his management aren't in contact with him either they don't

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304.388 - 308.173 Tim Watson

They've lost contact with him? Very, very limited contact.

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308.193 - 323.913 Sam Edmund

So that's Anna Scully, who's Eddie Betts' wife, and Eddie himself. We know Eddie, oh, gee, that family has done so much. I mean, he became part of their family, essentially, and Eddie took on that assistant coaching role at Geelong, and they've nurtured him all the way through. But, yep, he's two of the people, unfortunately, that have lost touch.

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323.933 - 333.446 Gary Lyon

And what happens, and I understand it because we're exposed to – We have a bit of an understanding of how the system works from a player to media and to a newsman.

333.567 - 334.068 Sam Edmund

That's very tough.

334.528 - 343.503 Gary Lyon

And our audience probably don't. So they're saying, hey, well, what's the secrecy here? Why don't you just come out and say it? Well, no one can just come out and say it. You don't know.

343.703 - 360.102 Sam Edmund

I think from a media point of view, look, we're well down the food chain and no one barracks for the journo, but I'm sure if I can speak at the risk of speaking for everyone, no one wants to go the full hog with this for fear of consequence about what might potentially happen. You don't want to be that person. There's basic medical privacy at the heart of it as well.

360.122 - 365.648 Sam Edmund

So we try to, because there's a thirst for people to know, we try to go as far as we can without breaching all those things now.

Chapter 3: What are the challenges surrounding the AFL's illicit drugs policy?

387.187 - 403.106 Sam Edmund

Nine match sanction, two suspended. Frankston players adamant that he had said it. Lance Collard and St Kilda adamant that he didn't. It'll get extremely legal heavy tonight. I saw, just speaking to the agenda setters, Tom Morris actually had a part of the St Kilda submission included last night.

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403.387 - 421.373 Sam Edmund

It states this, on behalf of the Saints, the tribunal's state of comfortable satisfaction was reached by unreasonable, illogical and irrational reasoning in the absence of any objective or otherwise reliable evidence in support of the charge. So essentially, it's a he said, he said, and they've sided with the other party.

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421.413 - 422.955 Gary Lyon

He said against two he says.

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422.935 - 430.847 Sam Edmund

Yeah. He said, he said, he said. Yeah. Much like the Zach Mutter situation as well. But, of course, this one, very, very, very serious.

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430.867 - 432.429 Gary Lyon

I don't think there's anything we can add to that.

433.611 - 452.997 Sam Edmund

Sounds like a lengthy hearing, that one. That could go the distance. Bobby Hill will make his highly anticipated return to football via the VFL against Essendon at Victoria Park tomorrow. At least that has been the plan this week. for player and club. The teams need to be confirmed today. Obviously hasn't played since the end of last season at AFL level. He did play a couple of VFL games as well.

453.037 - 462.209 Sam Edmund

So there's a player that's had his issues, but at the moment, looks like he pulls the boots back on, which is awesome news for him in Collingwood. 24 rounds in a, so 24 games in a season, Wisp.

Chapter 4: How does the AFL handle player privacy regarding substance issues?

462.309 - 465.914 Sam Edmund

It looks as though we're going to try to get to with Tassie coming into the competition.

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465.934 - 471.1 Tim Watson

Well, let's ask the only player here at the moment. 24, about the right number, or do you want a few more?

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471.08 - 491.56 Tom Green

More. Well, the thing is I'm kind of a bit – I reckon I'd almost go for more. We have – More. Well, I wouldn't necessarily go more than 24. I think 24 is not a bad number. But when people – I know there's been a lot of push to have less games in the season. I'm personally like we play so many preseason games. Why don't we actually make a few more of them worth premiership points?

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491.6 - 509.212 Tom Green

I mean, if you look at most other leagues around the world, like the Premier League, for instance – They have a lot of their games at the start of the year where they understand that the product is not the same as when it comes right to the pointy end and in season. But if you can get more games, more people there and sell it that way, I suppose, instead of having so many preseason games.

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509.493 - 519.072 Tim Watson

Okay. So the counter argument to that is the players wouldn't be necessarily prepared correctly for the AFL season if you didn't have preseason games. What do you say to that? Even if you're at the coalface.

519.092 - 537.94 Tom Green

Yeah, I don't know if I believe in that only because, again, AFL, I think, has the longest preseason of any professional sport. I think that by the time you get to the back end of preseason, you're basically playing full-length games, not only as in intras, or you're playing against other teams. So I don't know why you couldn't just maybe turn a few of those or make it a little bit earlier.

537.96 - 543.308 Gary Lyon

I'm broken out in the cold sweat. Gary wants to shorten it. 24-game season. You've got to be kidding, aren't you?

543.328 - 544.59 Tim Watson

Gary wants to shorten the...

544.57 - 570.645 Tom Green

length of the game well if you're gonna play 24 then the game has to come back to 100 minutes i could i could go with that yeah so you'd be happy just to i mean you have unofficial practice games no one's saying they wouldn't eventuate so you just have a couple of glorify match simulation sessions well against something like i mean you don't want to make the match because some of those match teams can be scrappy so you don't want to make sure that you don't want to completely detract from the product but i just think that you end up running around so many more times why wouldn't you make it for premiership points yeah

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