Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Tom, what's on your agenda? On my agenda is the GWS Giants and Adam Kingsley being very confident last night that the club will be absolutely fine despite the fact they're 3-5 at the moment.
Yeah, we'll be okay. We'll be okay. I mean, the reality is it's been an incredibly tough start for the season for us. You know, we've had some players out and we haven't had players play together for very many games. And when we start to get a bit more synergy, we'll be fine.
Do you agree with that confidence, Cain, that they'll just be fine? I know they've been slow starters traditionally, but are you as confident in where the Giants are going?
No, I'm not as confident and I worry for where they're going to be in two or three years' time. I think about five or six weeks ago we spoke about the cliff coming for the Giants. I think it's vastly approaching and it's going to be a challenge to rejuvenate this list is where I see it.
They beat Essendon, they'll beat West Coast. They'll be back on track at 5-5.
Yep. Yep. And away they go. And away they go.
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Chapter 2: What insights does Adam Kingsley share about the GWS Giants' performance?
Let's see what they can do.
Hey, you were critical last week of the Scotty Pendlebury not playing after five days, all that sort of stuff, Cornsy, not resting the week before, not taking the last quarter off. Tex Walker did every one of those things. He didn't play the last quarter of the previous week and he played five days later and And he suffered a hamstring injury that he hadn't had for about eight years.
Isn't that the exact same preparation you were talking about with Scotty Pendlebury?
Well, not really, because he flew home from Brisbane. He drove a long way to attend a funeral on the Wednesday. So I think there were some significant differences in Taylor Walker's preparation than there was for, or should have been for Scott Pendlebury. And I think Pendlebury is far more important to Collingwood than what Walker is to Adelaide.
Isn't it the same situation with a player of that age backing up after five days?
So when do you play them then? Why have them on the list if you can't play in major games like a showdown or...
Because you only intend for them to play 15 games for the year, 16, 17 games for the year.
Yeah, so play them in the best ones, the biggest ones, the most important ones. Don't play them against Essendon. Don't play them against West Coast. That would be my view on that. So I think it's not really the same with the travel involved and the week that... the emotional week that Taylor Walker had and what he had to do during the week. So some slight differences.
But if you're not going to play in the big games, don't go around. Retire would be my view on that.
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Chapter 3: What happened to Taylor Walker and how does it impact his team?
Luke Parker, 322 games, premiership player in 2012. He was a Sydney co-captain for four years. He's a three-time best and fairest winner. He's an All-Australian. Luke Parker, Hall of Fame, yes or no?
Yes.
Yes.
Everything we say is going to have the same reaction.
Clayton Oliver, 212 games. He's a premiership player in 2021. He's a Coaches Association winner twice. He's an All-Australian three times, and he's a Best and Fairest winner four times. Tom, you're saying yes? Easily, yes. Easily, yes.
Kingy. It might take him 25 years, but he'll get in.
Okay. Toby Green, 268 games. He's the captain of the Giants. He's a three-time All-Australian. He's a two-time Kevin Sheedy medal. He's a four-time Giants leading goal kicker. He was in their inaugural team. Hall of Fame, Toby Green. Yes, Tom, or no? Yes. Yes.
Yep. Kingy. Yes, but he'll get suspended from there at some stage.
Hoff or not, Harris Andrews, 243 games. He's a premiership captain twice. He is a three-time All-Australian. He's a one-time best and fairest winner. Hoff or not, Tom?
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Chapter 4: What is the 'HoF or Not' segment about?
The long goodbye. We lost it. Where's the music? Can he play his own music? The 87. Hang on.
What's that?
Let's just lower the mood a little bit here as we send off the 87 XF Fairmont. Silver originally.
Chapter 5: Who are the players discussed in the Hall of Fame segment?
Patches of white, patches of rust at the moment. What is this? No reverse.
It's gone. It's devastating.
Put your Ford badges out on the veranda tonight, guys. It's over. Thank you, JK. Do you think the Fremantle Dockers will look at the program for Hayden Young from here forward? Is he one of those players? So this is his history. Last year, missed three, played four, missed nine, played three, missed two, played two. This year, played one, missed four, played three.
Now I'm going with, he's a no-fly zone for me. Don't bring him over here to play Essendon. You can get the job done without him. Don't take him to Canberra. Disaster. I'm 50-50 whether I take him to Brisbane. I love if you think you're playing those teams later in the year, having something stacked aside. Yep, we didn't really show them everything last time we played.
You're probably not going to win that game anyway. I'm saying play all the games at home and maybe one or two trips from here max.
No fly zone.
No fly zone.
What do you think? Lucky he did fly on the weekend, though, because without him, I'm not sure they win.
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Chapter 6: What are the arguments for and against Taylor Walker's Hall of Fame candidacy?
But from here on out, I don't mind that from you. Pick and choose a little bit. um, with him, but gee, how good, how good was he? How good was he?
Well, I want him at halfback and then you see him at full forward and you go, oh, hang on, forget that halfback business.
Yeah, I heard your, um, I heard Hoini was big on it as well during the week and Justin spoke about it after the game. He said, well, that, I hear the halfback stuff. He was quite respectful, but that's the reason we play him in the forward half.
What do you think, Tom? Would you travel him or not? No, I like what you're saying. I like what you're saying. I think they had the luxury to rest these sorts of players at this time.
You've got to be careful. He's their danger field, isn't he?
Yeah, he's the Heaney type, Dangerfield type. Tom, anything left? What's this whiteboard I'm seeing in the office here?
Hey, this is my private space. But Kiki is staring right at me.
You're not allowed to do that.
Read the top line.
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Chapter 7: How do the hosts evaluate Luke Parker's Hall of Fame eligibility?
Boss Scott. Anyway, I'm not going to read it out because it's private. Private. Just a quick one and gather around. No announcement today, but likely this week or later this week on that three-year deal to be locked in. Mitch's reporting is accurate in state of origin. WA versus South Australia next year in WA. Then South Australia versus Vic in South Australia in 2028. Don't be a hater.
Don't be a hater.
Our man Goss won't be happy that they're ripping it out of WA. Goss will get over it.
He'll be fine. That was the agenda. I'll go with it now. It'll be four 15-minute quarters. You watch.
Four 15s, you think? With time on. It can't be Mickey Mouse, though. That's the conundrum that they're in. It has to mean something. It can't be an exhibition game. State of origin. So it's a tough spot for the AFL and the league to be in. Great stuff, Tom. See you tomorrow night.
Thanks, Cain.
Look forward to it. Feedback. Your feedback next.
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