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The Ramble - Thursday, June 25

24 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 12.951 Gary Lyon

Breakfast with Gary and Tim. It's alright. Good morning.

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13.011 - 41.806 Tim Watson

Welcome. Thursday, 25th day of June. My cafe menu is nicely loaded up. Causa from Champion Data. George Samios. Troy Little, an update on our Greyhound. Questions without notice. And at 7 o'clock, Scott Miller, former Olympic silver medalist and massive... sporting presence in this country, not that long ago, who found himself in jail for a five-year period. He's done a documentary.

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41.826 - 58.536 Tim Watson

It's called The Deep End. The first episode aired on the ABC Monday, the second is on this Monday, and Tim and I spoke to him yesterday, and, phew, by jingos, you need to have a listen to this. It's out at seven o'clock. Very honest. Very, very raw.

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58.556 - 68.889 Garry Lyon

This was welcome to you. Good morning, Gary. Good morning, everybody. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. No jokes. All seriousness right now. Stop what you're doing after seven o'clock.

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Chapter 2: Who is Scott Miller and what is his documentary about?

68.909 - 91.963 Garry Lyon

Well, don't oversell. I do want to oversell this because stop what you're doing after 7 o'clock this morning and make sure you listen to this interview because he's very – it's raw. He's honest about where he's been. Right now, he's in a great place. Hasn't always been the case since he finished his – Swimming career, but you did a great job. You asked some excellent questions yesterday.

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92.625 - 103.928 Tim Watson

Some of the answers for people maybe who are struggling with similar challenges, whether it be addiction or whatever the case is, some of his answers for me anyway just made so much sense. Yes.

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103.988 - 124.754 Garry Lyon

Anyway, have a listen. It comes up at 7 o'clock. Yeah, we can't, let's not unpack it before we pack it. We need to play it first, but there's a lot of things to talk about post that interview. I thought a lot about it yesterday when I was out and about, about things that he had to say and the way that he approached things and, you know, that whole thing. I'll say one thing about this. Okay.

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124.914 - 140.846 Garry Lyon

The discipline of life, having a routine is, And you know where it took me? After he spoke about the routine that he had as a sports person and then how he missed that post his sporting career. And it made me think about AI and what's going to happen in the world and how important it is.

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141.207 - 157.54 Garry Lyon

You know, people are right now, they're listening in their car, they're getting up, they get up at the same time every morning, they go, they put their... the kettle on, they have their coffee, they make their, whatever it is, you've got a routine. And it's so important to the rhythm of our lives to have that routine. Yeah. And then to have work to go to. Yeah.

157.56 - 159.604 Garry Lyon

And anyway, that's a very serious topic.

159.624 - 172.284 Tim Watson

Which is one of the challenges, well, this is in getting, discussed with Scott, but the whole work from home thing, right? Yes. So I think it's got a role to play, but in terms of trying to maintain your rhythm and your work life.

172.304 - 173.166 Garry Lyon

And your connection to people.

173.186 - 178.875 Tim Watson

And your connection to people, yeah. Anyway, that's coming up out of seven o'clock.

Chapter 3: What insights does Scott Miller share about his life and struggles?

245.966 - 271.208 Garry Lyon

In the Yarra Valley? In the Yarra Valley. Yeah. How far? How long did it take? It's a good trip. How long? It's a good trip. Well... I saw a sign to yay not far from where we were. So it was out past Lilydale. Yeah. It was magnificent. A magnificent establishment. And Herdy was good to catch up with Herdy again and have a good chat to him. Anything to report? No, nothing to report.

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271.228 - 272.77 Garry Lyon

No, nothing that you'd be interested in.

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Chapter 4: How does Tim relate to Scott Miller's story?

272.85 - 278.438 Garry Lyon

Nothing that anybody else would be interested in. Just talking about the good old days. Fair enough. The days we shared together. Yeah.

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278.418 - 290.916 Tim Watson

World Cup's on at the moment. Sweden are playing Canada into the 47th minute. And Sweden, Switzerland rather, Sweden, Switzerland lead 1-0. One love, 1-0. What do we say? 1-0.

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291.136 - 310.525 Garry Lyon

1-0. Just on that point, and the people that support you in your life and, you know, family members or whatever, and I'm sure Hurdy won't mind me saying this. He spoke about it publicly yesterday. And that was about his grandfather, Alan Hurd, whose name is on – On the grandstand? On the grandstand and was a president of the ASM Football Club.

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310.545 - 336.077 Garry Lyon

But he said that when he was playing junior football, heard he lived in Canberra, his grandfather would hop in the car at Romsey, where he had a farm. He would drive. To Canberra every weekend. No. Every weekend to watch Hurdy play in the junior football on a Saturday morning. What? Yes. And then drive back. Are you sure? Well, unless he wasn't telling the truth.

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336.157 - 347.954 Garry Lyon

He wasn't banging a bit on for... No, I don't think he was. He was... And you think about- Six and a half hours drive. That's right. Six and a half hours there, six and a half hours back, watch the game, then drive back home again. Every weekend he would do that.

348.314 - 360.468 Garry Lyon

And I know that he did follow, like he followed his football closely because I remember him being in the rooms when Hurdy first came down and started playing. But there's people like that in your lives who just support people. They're just there.

361.289 - 382.314 Tim Watson

Well, when it's family, it's- it's not conditional, of course. You don't have to do it because you're family, but that tie links there. What's the furthest you've travelled to go and support your kid is play a game of sport because a one-off six-and-a-half-hour trip's no problem, but if he's doing it every week, I'd take my hat off to that. That's unbelievable.

382.614 - 401.757 Garry Lyon

And you would know in your own family, like your sisters, how they supported their children when they played sport. I don't either. Like my parents when I was growing up and our dad was always one of the – Parents in Dimble that would be one of the drivers when we'd meet down at the milk bar to pick up all the kids to go to the footy on a Saturday morning. He was always one of the parents.

401.797 - 405.241 Tim Watson

We're lucky to have had supportive parents in our lives. Too right we are.

Chapter 5: What are the highlights of the upcoming World Cup match?

620.898 - 628.127 Tim Watson

Have a listen. Hey, what was the name of the show last night that you kept talking about? That's from Matt. Are you talking about the documentary? Is that what he was talking about?

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628.608 - 638.516 Garry Lyon

Maybe, Matt. It wasn't a show. This is an interview that we did. The documentary is called... Deep End. The Deep End, and that will air on the ABC again at the weekend.

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638.556 - 660.292 Tim Watson

First episode's already gone, but you catch up on ABC iView, I reckon, and then the second episode will be next Monday. So go along and have a look at that. Hey, did you see Jacob Elordi and Kendall Jenner are in Byron Bay? I didn't know that. They're mega, mega stars. Imagine just rolling down the street and running into those two. You're not as excited about it as I am.

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660.312 - 665.822 Tim Watson

Imagine going down... I wouldn't mind recovering in Byron Bay and running into the... I could get on well with those two.

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665.842 - 673.655 Garry Lyon

Imagine going down High Street, Armadale today and running into the Garrity and the Nicky. Walking along, doing some shopping. No, that's the same sort of feel.

673.735 - 683.472 Tim Watson

I feel like I'd be good mates with Jacob and Lordy. Why? I just feel a bond. In what way? He's a local St. Kevin's boy, wasn't he? Just a knockabout...

683.671 - 689.004 Garry Lyon

He started in Queensland. Of his footy? Yeah, no, he started in Queensland and then he ended up down in Victoria after that.

690.388 - 707.598 Tim Watson

What was I going to say? We're waiting for updates, Stevie, on Johnny's back surgery. So they said just to give him a little bit of time and we'll be checking in today. So- Well, someone will give you an update anyway. So he's had the surgery. Now we're just waiting for it to be all clear.

707.638 - 725.136 Garry Lyon

Clarkson's Farm, nearly finished Clarkson's Farm. Nearly finished it. Nearly finished it. I've got one little bit to go. Hannah, the ornithologist, the enthusiasm and the passion for birds. It was Dermot Burton-like, the enthusiasm she brought to that. Wasn't she fantastic?

Chapter 6: What recommendations are made for podcasts to listen to?

1081.769 - 1096.732 Garry Lyon

Do you know what the mandolin is? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So you get the really thinly sliced- You can play it. That's it. It's like a violin. You can play it. Very, very thinly sliced fennel. Yep. And then you have some Parmesan cheese with the fennel, but the- What else?

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1096.772 - 1098.515 Tim Watson

You don't just have fennel and Parmesan cheese.

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1098.535 - 1110.493 Garry Lyon

No, but the vinaigrette. This is the key to it, right? So you get the Cobramestate olive oil, a little bit of wine vinegar, some French mustard, and some freshly squeezed orange juice.

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1110.473 - 1113.4 Tim Watson

Yes. And what? And a bit of fennel. You mix all that together.

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1113.42 - 1133.48 Garry Lyon

You've got to have some leafy. No, no. And some flat leaf parsley. You chop that up on top. Oh, it is beautiful. Beautiful. It just sits in the dressing. The only thing in it really is fennel. You don't have any salad leaves. And parmesan. And some parsley as well. Be true. No, no, no, this is fennel salad. I don't like... I know you don't like fennel.

1133.6 - 1142.17 Tim Watson

I like salad. I don't like that sort of salad. I like a bit more. I like some tomato in there. I like some leafage. I like a little bit of beetroot. Right.

1142.611 - 1153.784 Garry Lyon

What sort of meals will I be able to deliver to you while you're in hospital? No. Will you be up to eating or not? No, I won't be eating. Because you don't want to get yourself clogged up while you're in there. Thanks, Tim. Thanks so much.

1154.084 - 1160.952 Tim Watson

Hey, thank you for your kind messages too. I do appreciate all the messages that... Coming through, which I don't take for granted.

1160.992 - 1175.851 Garry Lyon

Thank you. Scotty said, just say Beef Wellington. It's not Beef Wellington, Scotty. It's a stew. The Wellington's got the pastry on it, hasn't it? The Beef Wellington. Isn't that the beef wrapped in the pastry? I think it is. I don't think I've ever had a Beef Wellington.

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