Serialously with Annie Elise
210: Family Nightmare: Did the Step Dad Know? | The Twisted Case of 14-year-old Carly Gregg
Mon, 04 Nov 2024
Just after 5pm on Tuesday, March 19th, 2024, a 911 dispatcher in Brandon, Mississippi received a truly terrifying 911 call. The man on the phone was frantic, not only had he just been shot by his 14-year-old stepdaughter, Carly Gregg, but Carly had also shot and killed her mother. This is the twisted case of 14-year-old Carly Gregg… Rocket Money Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to https://www.RocketMoney.com/AE Guardian Bikes Shop Guardian Bikes this Holiday season and get up tp 25% off. http://www.guardianbikes.com Beam To try Dream for the lowest price of the year, head over to https://www.shopbeam.com/ANNIEELISE, enter the code ANNIEELISE, and unlock your early access! Shopify Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at https://www.shopify.com/serialously Shop the Merch: www.annieelise.com Follow the podcast on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@serialouslypodcast Follow the podcast on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/serialouslypod/ Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/annieelise All Social Media Links: https://www.flowcode.com/page/annieelise_ SERIALously FB Page: https://www.facebook.com/SERIALouslyAnnieElise/ About Me: https://annieelise.com/ For Business Inquiries: [email protected] Sources: ABC 7 Chicago WJTV Komo News Daily Mail New York Post Law and Crime Audio Sources: WLBT 3 Law and Crime Court TV
Chapter 1: What happened on March 19, 2024?
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Hey True Crime Besties, welcome back to an all new episode of Serialistly.
Hey alle, willkommen zurück zu einem neuen Video von Seriallessly mit mir, Annie Elise. Wir haben heute die Deep Dive aller Deep Dives. Es ist ein Fall, den so viele von euch beantworten, dass ich es öffne. Und zuerst war ich nicht sicher, ob ich es öffnen würde, weil ich dachte, dass das Trial passiert wäre. So viele Leute haben darüber gesprochen.
Ich dachte nicht, dass jemand wirklich eine neue Deep Dive wollen würde, aber... You all voted and you wanted it. And it's a wild case because there are so many different layers to it of deception based on reactions and behavior in the courtroom during the trial.
People think that there might have been a secret affair going on between this young girl and her stepfather and that he was involved in convincing her to murder her mother. Es ist, wenn du es nicht erwartet hast, der Fall von Carly Gregg, aber es gibt viele verschiedene Elemente dazu, als was wirklich nur die Augen auf der Oberfläche befinden. Also haben wir den Deep Dive gemacht.
Wir haben all die Forschung gemacht, damit du es nicht musst. Und wir werden alles machen.
Diese Frau muss richtig von falsch sein.
Diese Frau ist nicht verrückt. Etwas war sehr, sehr off mit Carly. Die Art, wie sie schreit, die Art, wie sie schaut.
Just after 5 p.m. on Tuesday, March 19, 2024, a 911 dispatcher in Brandon, Mississippi, received a truly terrifying 911 call.
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Chapter 2: Who is Carly Gregg and what events led to the shooting?
Where's her mom?
She killed me.
The man on the phone, Heath Smiley, was frantic. Not only because he had just been shot by his 14-year-old stepdaughter Carly Gregg, but Carly had also shot and killed her mother, 40-year-old Ashley Smiley. So when the police got to the Smiley's home, the whole scene, it was pretty chaotic.
They could hear somebody screaming from inside the house, and when Heath opened the door, he just fell to the ground. Some first responders tried to help him while the police started searching the house, trying to find Carly. Heath let them know that Carly had run out the back door after she had shot him, that she jumped the fence and then she just took off and ran away.
So the search, of course, expanded. And it was big enough that the police were now using helicopters to search the entire region. And they eventually spotted Carly. She was about a half mile from her house. She was still running, trying to get away. and she even climbed down into a storm drain to try and stop them from catching her. But that did not stop investigators.
They convinced her to come out of this drain. Now by the time she came out of it, she was completely wet, she was wearing sweatpants, she was wearing a Nirvana t-shirt, but she was surprisingly calm, which is not really something that you would expect from someone who supposedly just killed her mother and shot her stepdad. But either way, she was arrested.
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Chapter 3: What were the circumstances surrounding Carly's home life?
But still, her mom Ashley was worried enough to get Carly in to see a brand new therapist. A therapist named Rebecca Kirk. So Rebecca diagnosed Carly with major depressive disorder and adjustment disorder. And to get those diagnoses, she had to ask Carly if she ever suffered from any delusions or any hallucinations.
And this will all come into play later, but when she asked her that, Carly said no. She had never experienced anything like that. So now, with the new diagnoses, Carly began taking the medication Zoloft. But it apparently made her feel like a zombie, just not at all like herself. So she switched over to taking a drug called Lexapro instead. And this was right before the murder.
All in all, her new therapist Rebecca and Carly met nine times before Carly killed her mom. In fact, they even had a session the day before the murder happened, back on March 18th. And Rebecca later testified that during this session, Carly seemed very emotionally stable.
She did not indicate that our week was negatively affecting her. What did you mean by that?
Well, anytime that a person's prescription meds change, you need them to be very concerned about side effects, feelings of suicide, things of that sort. And so I wanted to follow up and make sure she wasn't experiencing negative reactions regarding that.
You also said that, excuse me, Nor did she appear different from any other sessions, nor emotionally unstable or dysregulated. Can you talk about what that means?
Ja, genau das, was wir gesagt haben, das war in der ersten Teil der Sessionen. Sie war sehr orientiert auf Zeit und Raum. Sie hatte keine erratische Sprache, keine laute Sprache. Sie war nicht sehr wütend oder glücklich. Es war einfach eine normale Situation, die sie beobachtet.
Und dann sagst du noch weiter, dass sie nicht melancholisch war, noch emotional zoniert war. Kannst du erzählen, was du da gemeint hast?
Ja, sie hat mehrere Male berichtet, dass, ähm, zumindest einmal vielleicht, aber ich fühle mich, als hätte ich es mehr als einmal geschrieben, ich bin mir nicht sicher, dass sie mit einigen der Zoloften wie ein Zombie gefühlt hat und, ähm,
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Chapter 4: How did the police respond to the 911 call?
Was Carly mir berichtet hat, war, dass sie sich überrascht hatte. dass sie wie ihr Vater enden könnte. Und dass ihre Mutter, vor allem nachdem all das im Dezember geschehen ist, dass ihre Mutter ihr oft sagte, dass sie wie ihr Vater enden könnte. Carly verstand, dass ihr Vater eine ernsthafte psychische Krankheit hatte.
Carly berichtete mir, dass sie wirklich nicht fürchtet war, dass sie eine ernsthafte psychische Krankheit hätte.
Nein.
Based on your experience and expertise, what would motivate someone to not be forthcoming with their doctor?
Also es gibt wahrscheinlich viele Gründe. Ich denke, viele Teenager wollen nicht wirklich zu einem Psychiater oder sogar zu einem Therapeuten sprechen. Aber sicherlich ist Scham einer der Gründe. Scham und Stigma sind groß. Es gibt viele Menschen, die sich in Denial engagieren, die einfach nicht glauben wollen, dass sie eine Bedingung haben.
Und sie denken, sie möchten denken, dass sie durchgehen können. Und sie sagen sich selbst, dass es wirklich nicht so schlecht ist. A lot of teenagers in particular are worried that their parents are going to find out. And it's actually still fairly common for people to be worried that they're going to end up in a psychiatric hospital. Especially around things like suicide.
I'm talking about suicidal thoughts. But just in general, they worry that you're going to lock me up in a hospital.
Aufgrund deiner Erfahrung und Expertise, wie normal ist es für Menschen, dass sie Angst haben, eine mentale Krankheit zu bekommen?
Ich denke, es kann für Menschen sehr schwierig sein.
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