Chapter 1: What are lukewarm takes and why are they important?
I have a question for you. I'm going to start with, like, a broad-stroke philosophical question.
How I always want to start a Dumpster Fridays episode.
What rights do you have over the photography of your own meal when you eat out?
What rights do I have? As in, like... This has never happened to me where someone's tried to take a photo of my meal.
So we, I say we, Ollie and I were out for dinner last week and we were sitting at like a bar table, like a chef's table. So you're all sitting in a row with like strangers. Yeah. And I was on the end and he was sitting next to said strangers. And when his meals came out, the person next to him would pick up their phone. No. And get really close to the meal and take photos of it.
And he kept looking at me in shock. Did they ask for permission? No, no. There was no words exchanged. No social contract exchanged to say I'm going to be doing this. Not at all. And he was like, I mean, I guess you can do that. No, you can't. But why does it feel so wrong? That's bizarre. And they weren't the social media manager of the restaurant. No. No, no, no, just a casual eater. A patron.
Yeah, a patron. Because then we spent the next hour talking about it because we're married so we don't have much to talk about anymore. So if something like this happens, that's it. That's your night done. The ethics of food photography. Yeah, because there's nothing to say you're not allowed to do it. No, no, no, no. You're not touching the food. You're not touching him.
But it's not like this person could just turn around and take a selfie with Ollie whenever they want. You do have the right.
No, because that's his face. It's just his food. It's going in his little tummy.
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Chapter 2: What ethical considerations arise from food photography?
You don't like it when I do that. No, no, but I did start. And I think we're on tune. Coming up on today's show, everyone's talking about hot takes. What about lukewarm texts? What about those? Why don't we give more head time to lukewarm texts? A TikTok that went viral has got us thinking all about them. And we'll take you through some of our favourite ones.
And then a funny but very, very scary, very scary clip published by the AFL this week. That's the Australian Football League for our international listeners. And we are unfortunately going to have to deep the entire thing. It's already been deleted, but... There's screen recording. Oh, we got there quickly. And then, of course, we're going to play Slow News Week. I'm so excited about that one.
I know, I've seen some good reviews.
I've got two wrecks, but I want to be smart because last week I got on this show and I said, I'm struggling for wrecks at the moment.
A classic conundrum. Do you eat all your wrecks in one episode?
Am I going to be the cookie monster? Yes. Okay. I think it's just be greedy when you got them and be self-aware when you don't. I just need people to understand if I come with none next week.
She came with two.
Did you see the – oh, you're not on TikTok. I've had a few people on TikTok offer me some recs. They've made videos and gone, this is for Michelle Andrews.
You are famous.
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Chapter 3: What recommendations do the hosts have for shows and products?
My second wreck is a bit of a beauty wreck, if you'll allow me. Oh, I've also got a left of centre rack and two. You and I. Okay. How are you feeling about a hair rack?
I would love a hair rack.
Okay. My hair's been falling out. Not going to get into the woe is me story behind that. It still looks beautiful. Thank you. It looks decent. Thanks to, and not sponsored, before anyone accuses me of this, not sponsored, L'Oreal Elvive's Growth Booster Shampoo and Conditioner Range.
Funny you say that. I ran out of my shampoo and conditioner. And so I had to run to the local chemist last night. And you bought this? Well, I bought a different L'Oreal LV. Is that a coinkydink enough? Now this sounds like it's sponsored. I know, but it's not. How many times are we going to say L'Oreal LV? Available at chemist's warehouse. I got it from my local. It wasn't chemist's warehouse.
Really fucking good, by the way. So it's a growth bomb, is it?
Growth booster. A growth booster. Shampoo. And then I'm also using the conditioner. I was going to recommend this last week and thought it's not strong enough. And then I left the Friday recording that we did with Joanne McNally. And you thought? And Kate, our producer of Stylish, said, what are you using in your hair at the moment? It's looking really good.
So I said, well, well, well, Kate, you'll find out next week. Oh, so you kept her waiting for a whole week? No, I think I told her.
There you go. What's your rec? Oh, I love that. Okay, two quick recs. The first is a book I read yesteryear by Claire Caro Burke, which is all over the feeds at the moment. Have you seen this around?
Yes, yes. It's all over the office. Everyone keeps saying yesteryear and I keep thinking, God, I want to be involved. And then I think I'm just too lazy right now.
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Chapter 4: How does the AFL video reflect societal norms?
Is it not? Pick it up. Read it. It's a very of the now book.
Okay. Interesting. I'm trying to figure out how sci-fi you go. Like, have you ever seen Sliding Doors with Gwyneth Paltrow? That's not sci-fi. That's beautiful. That's a little bit sci-fi. No, but do you get where it's like elements of sci-fi? Because it's like an alternate universe is pretty sci-fi.
Oh, is it? Maybe I'm quite sci-fi then. I love an alternate universe. She loves sci-fi. Yeah. There you go. I love that film.
So what's your, when do we go to sci-fi? Alien. What are you talking about? I'm trying to figure out when it crosses over for you because if you're fine with alternate universe, when does it become too sci-fi for you? That's more whimsy, sliding doors.
Sci-fi is, yeah, alien.
Alien, extraterrestrial being. Robot. Babe, robots aren't sci-fi. They're about to become our whole life. Yeah, it's my friend in my computer. Have you seen that the word, like the slur word for a robot is clanker? Just a heavy-footed clanker. The fact that maybe this podcast in 50 years will be deeply inappropriate.
This is what we'll get cancelled for by our children. Okay, quickly, second rec. Sorry, we're going to eat ourselves next week. Cookie monsters, yeah. I bought some fake flowers this week. Oh, yeah, you did and they look really good. Yeah, and I think they look quite good. Flowers, I cannot keep alive. It's just a huge issue in my life. I can never keep them alive.
Babe, you're not supposed to keep flowers alive. For more than five days. Well, are we? I think so. I know people that can keep them alive for weeks. Not me. I don't have hobbies though, those people. Michelle. Sorry. Yes, they do. Jealousy is a curse. Siddell's studio is opened up a few months ago, I think.
And I got a couple of flowers, but the ones that I got in my apartment at the moment that I think look the most realistic are the hydrangeas. I just am going to get a vase that's not glass. So you can't see that I'm not using water in them.
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Chapter 5: What are the hosts' thoughts on the AFL players' comments?
You guys do great work, plants.
You're worth it. You have disrespected the owners of flowers that keep them alive too. So if you could apologise to those too.
I feel like I'm doing so many apologies to you. Maybe give me the benefit of the doubt.
Anyway, as I said, they're not cheap, but if you are in the business of being like, I'm burning money on flowers and I don't know what to do about it, I only need them to keep my house just looking something.
Giving it a bit of zhuzh. That's it. Okay, lukewarm takes. Okay, well, my first lukewarm take is we should spell zhuzh differently. Because how do you think, spell zhuzh live. Go. G-O-U-J-E. You're kidding. Zhuzh. You think zhuzh starts with a G? Yeah, but a French G. Are you actually trying? I didn't have much time to think. Okay, zhuzh. I'll have you know. And I do want this to change.
This is my first lukewarm take. Zhuzh is spelt Zed. I know how it's spelt. Go on then.
But, like, I knew it was, like, different. Okay.
Zed, what's next?
O. No.
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Chapter 6: What is the significance of 'Slow News Week' in this episode?
I found that one quite hard. Okay. Well, the reason we're talking about our lukewarm takes is because I saw a viral TikTok from the user Nazimepi. She had this text overlaying her video saying, can you share with me some lukewarm takes? I'm extremely tired of hot takes. And I thought, I fucking love this idea.
This had 200,000 likes, over 14,000 comments, and I thought I could posit some lukewarm takes to you today. You said I wasn't allowed to read the comments, so I didn't. Great. Thank you. So you have no idea what lukewarm takes I'm about to tell you about. No, please tell me then. Okay. Netflix should have a comment section. That was one suggestion that had 102,000 likes. Okay.
They look warm. They're not supposed to. Oh, we can do better than that. If this is where we're starting, I'm deeply concerned.
I think absolutely not to Netflix having a comment section because I'm already irritated by using my TV remote to type in anything. The idea that I would then be using my TV remote to type in a full comment, like typing in anything on a TV keyboard could drive me clinically insane.
Honestly, I appreciate I got skin in the game, but I think we need less comment sections.
I'm sick of being perceived. I'm so overexposed. Okay. Gmail should have a way to delete thousands of emails at once. Correct take.
Objectively amazing take.
And a better search function if Gmail, if you're listening. So iconic. Okay. If a show gets cancelled without a proper ending, the showmaker has to release what their plans were for the finale. I agree. Fanfic. Wonderful. I agree with that too. I disagree with the following. Okay. All restaurant menus should have pictures of their food.
Grow up.
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Chapter 7: How do the hosts feel about the current beauty sales?
And then I'll expose the team member. And then I'll have to go out and apologize. Exactly. Belly, thank you for doing this, by the way, because I was going to suggest to you let's get some of our own and then you did it. And I was like, God, she's a producer extraordinaire. Oh, she's good. Couples should not order two separate meals and then share both. Completely incorrect.
Completely incorrect.
In fact, we are a couple.
Yeah, there's no other way to eat out. If anything, I judge people more for ordering their own big meal. Sorry, not big. No shame. Their own solo, solo meal without wanting a little taste of everything.
I did fix that. We often, when we go to lunch together, which is regularly. We'll share everything. We collaborate. You and I look at each other and you say, I'm feeling this. And I nod often and I say, well, I'm feeling this. And then we hold hands and we think, what a joyous union. I remember, though, we did go to lunch recently and I let you down because I said I'd collaborate with you.
And then the waiter came and you said, actually, I'm getting my own. Yeah, because you wanted something that's pumpkin based. And I just, that threw me. It's not a typical Zara choice. You're too sophisticated for old man over here. Okay. Who was that? That was Shu.
Surprising from Shu.
I know.
I thought Shu was better than that. I did too. I'll be having a word.
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Chapter 8: What insights do the hosts share about AI influencers?
Are we saying Primo as an abbreviation for premium?
We are, yeah.
That is the most Australian thing you've ever said. I don't think I do. I just have approachable person YouTube. She is one of the people. None of the CPR videos I'm opening have videos, Mon. Just letting you know that. Okay. You're also fine.
Michelle.
Okay, I'm not going to joke about anyone else losing their jobs. Okay, Nyma. Oh, sorry, now I've exposed her. Nyma said DJ sets should always have lyrics in them. Completely agree. I agree with that. I'm not interested in any songs that don't have lyrics. Gills, I think, is just something we would all agree with. Yeah. Do not breathe down my neck in a line. Oh, gosh, yes. Take a step back. Yeah.
Yep.
That's a hot take, not a local one, I would say.
Um, Lucy's, I should have checked if she had this back to front because I think the opposite of what Lucy thinks. Lucy says shampoo bottles should be bigger than conditioner bottles. No, that's true. I use more conditioner than I use shampoo. You're not double shampooing. No, I am. But you use a tiny little 20 cent piece of shampoo.
I'd like triple shampoo my hair. Also. What? Well, if you slick back your hair with a wax stick, you got issues. What issues? It takes ages to get the stuff out of your hair.
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