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Chapter 1: What did Olivia Wilde reveal about Don’t Worry Darling?
I won't lie to the listeners, this is the third time we've tried to start today's recording. I think this is a good omen. The third time's a charm. Of course. Okay, well, breaking Taylor Swift news. I'm going to pretend I've not heard that one three times. You haven't heard this part yet, though.
No, I haven't.
Because I keep making us reset and do it again. All right. We have heard from a listener who I will only refer to as N. Yes. And she thinks that she has a hot scoop. Okay. She says Taylor Swift is not already married. The Rhode Island thing, that is not her theory. She says... That she goes to a dog park. This is how every good rumour starts. Stay with me. I'm here. Sorry, right here.
She goes to the dog park. With – she goes to the dog park. I'm trying to wrap my head around this. And at the dog park is the uncle of a friend of Travis Kelsey.
Okay, so a guest at the wedding, the uncle of that guest is at the dog park with our listener.
Unbelievable connections. Now, I know all the tabloid media will absolutely pounce on this. So she's going to the dog park. She's meeting Travis Kelsey's friend. No, Travis Carter's friends are cool. Yeah. And this man has said to her, the Madison Square Garden rumor is true.
And I quote, Taylor might have had a smaller ceremony or actual wedding, but the Madison Square Garden event is going to be a massive party and not a traditional ceremony. I guess we will see is her final words. Love you guys on the show.
I see that. Have the wedding at home. Have your 50 people.
How much do we trust our listener going to the dog park where the uncle of Travis Kelsey's friend is spilling gossip about the wedding?
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Chapter 2: Are Mika Abdalla and Josh Heuston dating?
It's a kind of creeping build of suspense.
Yeah. And you don't like spooky things. God, no, I don't like being scared or stressed. It's a tough life trying to avoid those things, I must be honest. No, I completely agree. It is about a couple, so Seth Rogen and Olivia Wilde. So Olivia Wilde doesn't just direct, she stars in it too. Is it Olivia Wilde? Yeah, she is starring in it. And Penelope Cruz is in it too.
and Edward Norton, who was not top of mind for me when I know actors, but he seems great in the trailer.
If you say, yeah, if you say the name Edward Norton, does your brain conjure an image or is he Tom Hardy? No, well, yeah, the brain conjures an image.
It's Graham.
Oh, yes, the other Norton.
Yeah. Anyway, in this Call Her Daddy interview, which is a really interesting interview and the snippets were all over my feed this week, Olivia talked a lot about how I think she used this film, which is all about relationships, to talk about her own relationships. I mean Esther Perel was a consultant on this film.
So they kind of used that at the start of the interview as a character to say like talking about relationships theoretically and then they went into the specifics.
They really want people to know that Esther Perel, if that name is not jogging anyone's memory listening, she is like best-selling author, hugely popular podcasting personality. I would say she's like the Oprah of relationship dynamics of the modern era. They really want people to know Esther Perel was involved because Seth Rogen spoke about that a lot in his interview as well.
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Chapter 3: What are the details of Anne Hathaway's pregnancy announcement?
Yeah.
They had to talk about Olivia Rodrigo. We couldn't go a whole episode without mentioning.
That's really interesting. I didn't know that. That sounds great. Esther Pearl is a small carrot for me. I think I did find that kind of buzzy. I think the name Esther Pearl will always be buzzy to me. So when they said that, I was like, I'm interested.
Now let's go back to 2020 very, very quickly if we have time because I think what Olivia Wilde spoke to in this interview is something she hasn't really spoken to in five years. Years? Fuck.
No, four. I think Don't Worry Darling came out in 2022 because it was then followed by, was it Ends With Us 2023?
Yeah, and I think that's the thing. It Ends With Us kind of made everybody forget about Don't Worry Darling.
Don't Worry Darling is the best story we have ever covered on the show. I agree.
I miss it. Bring that back. Well, we did a three-part scandal. Put a link in the show notes if anyone wants to go back and listen to that. But it was the end of 2020 that Florence Pugh and Harry Styles were announced as the stars of that movie. Two months later, Olivia Wilde and her then partner, I think fiance, Jason Sudeikis, announced that their seven-year-long engagement was off.
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Chapter 4: What is the significance of the Hot Girl Walk trademark?
They have two kids together. Totally. So then reports came out that Olivia Wilde and Florence Pugh weren't vibing. We then found out Olivia Wilde and Harry Styles were dating.
Maybe there was overlap between her relationship with Jason ending and her relationship with Harry starting. Yeah. I mean, that might be the Michelle Andrews reading of it. There was the salad dressing.
That came later, didn't it?
I'm not going to get into that.
If you don't remember that, just listen to the Scandal series.
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Chapter 5: What are the implications of trademarking phrases like 'Hot Girl Walk'?
Then we had after that the custody papers being served to Olivia Wilde on stage at CinemaCon.
We had the nanny. Do you remember when the nanny came out?
Yeah, you jumping so far into it.
I've been desperately trying to do this in chronological order. Sorry, sorry. I'm throwing in salad dressing. My chronology is just out of whack. Sorry, I haven't read the notes.
We then had the Don't Worry Darling premiere where Florence P refused to turn up until halfway through. And she was walking through with that glass of Aperol Spritz. Yeah, she refused to do the press conference. Then we had Harry Styles allegedly spitting on Chris Pine. Or throwing a goat on the floor. Then we had the nanny interview. Sorry.
Where we got the salad dressing quotes and Jason Sudeikis like throwing himself under a car.
Yeah. That is actually outrageous, that rap sheet. And also let me say no Jason Sudeikis were injured in that throwing themselves under a car. No. Anyway. Everyone physically fine. Emotionally and mentally not fine. As is clear in this Call Her Daddy interview. Olivia says a couple of really interesting things. We'll start small. She categorically says that Harry did not spit on Chris Pine.
He didn't. He didn't. We found this ridiculous at the time and we still find it ridiculous now. I remember we got on the show and we're like, no one actually believes this. But then it became really clear most of our listenership believed it.
I think I realised I didn't have my finger on the pulse when Evelyn Andrews thought that Harry did.
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Chapter 6: How is Benson Boone's relationship with Alix Earle perceived?
That's not accurate.
It's interesting you say that because I didn't listen to this interview and think that she was blaming the media. I think she was sort of like, it's interesting to see this narrative being concocted.
Yeah.
be it from the media, be it from the people around you, just that there was a narrative that she wasn't taking part in is how I took it. And I think that would be strange. I look back on this and I'm sure the truth's at somewhere in the middle. And I think it is interesting. And I don't know if it's funny. I don't know if I had this thought when we did the scandal.
Chapter 7: What is the latest on the rumored PR relationship between Benson Boone and Alix Earle?
So if this is a repeat thought, forgive me, or if this is just a brand new thought for me. But I think you do look back at perhaps the Florence Pugh press part of it. And it's not particularly professional.
No. No. I think there were deep unresolved feelings. We got to the end of that scandal series and we kind of reached a place where we figured Florence was probably pissed off at how the movie was marketed. She found it to be disingenuous or she found it to be a bit grubby given the actual material of the film. Yeah.
We could see why Olivia Wilde and the production company sold it that way because you're almost Trojan horsing people. If you can't remember, Don't Worry Darling was sold on sex, really. Totally. Like a Harry Styles oral sex scene was how it was sold. Feminism. For feminism. But it's actually really about... power dynamics and gender roles in relationships.
We could kind of see both sides of the coin, but I agree with you. I think Florence Pugh actually served a huge role in fanning the flames of this drama.
Completely. Now, when Olivia Wilde talked about sweetness and wholesomeness, she was, of course, referring to her relationship with Harry Styles during that time.
this is what she said about what it was like to date harry people were pissed it also had a lot to do with the kind of parasocial relationship people had with him which is a burden that is very weighty and not something i envy and he he carries it with grace i i think that is an enormous enormous responsibility that all those like stars have to carry and it's impossible.
I mean, we had the loveliest relationship like so, so sweet and so beautiful and like really actually very domestic and kind and lovely and like, I think that we existed in this like little bubble and the judgment never really got into that bubble, which was a miracle and a testament to us making that happen.
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Chapter 8: How do celebrity relationships influence public perception?
She has so much love for Harry to this day. Yeah. So much respect and kindness. It's not often you hear celebrities talk about their relationships like this very openly. No, but just, like, I think you often hear celebrities talk about former relationships without saying their ex's name. I was going to say the same thing. It's so weird to hear her in this interview use Harry's name.
And use Jason's name. Yeah. Like, she's... She's not beating around the bush and I really appreciate it because it does annoy me when celebrities are sometimes very circular. But we all know, like we all know the person you're talking about.
Yeah.
We knew your relationship inch by inch almost because it played out in the public eye so much. So for her to just say, Harry, Jason.
It's weird how weird it is. That it shouldn't be weird, but that is. When she kept saying Harry, I was like, oh, we're like... We're just saying it. She's an extremely honest person. Very honest. I think it's when she started talking about Jason Sudeikis towards the end of the interview that I found really fascinating because Alex Cooper didn't really ask her probing questions about it.
She started talking about it and then took it down a narrative and it was very much – I think a scenario where Olivia Wilde went into this interview and was like, I kind of want to hit a few key things if this is like the first podcast interview that I've done. I'm going to talk about that relationship breakdown. I'm going to talk about the divorce papers.
Got to the end of the interview, hadn't been asked about it. And so she kind of drove the car there herself. Completely drove the car there herself. She did stay neutral-ish when she was talking about Jason.
She was glowing about him as a father. Yeah. She was really lovely about him as a dad earlier in the chat.
Oh, yes. Maybe when we talk about neutral-isms, it's about how she spoke about CinemaCon. Him as a romantic partner to her. Yeah. Let's talk about being served those papers.
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