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Shameless

Women Overboard

01 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What intriguing comment did Mich share at the beginning?

0.031 - 18.307 Michelle Andrews

Yes, Belly? Oh, am I on mic? I thought you wanted to be. I always want to be. You wanted to tell us about a comment we got on TikTok. Oh, well, I saw a comment on one of our new fancy videos because we've got new fancy cameras saying, I thought this was AI. I just thought it was really funny.

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19.249 - 26.644 Zara McDonald

That is really funny. I love that the trust for us is so low in terms of like the aesthetics of this podcast.

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26.664 - 27.686 Michelle Andrews

We're so bootleg.

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27.927 - 31.495 Zara McDonald

That even if it looks a little bit better, it just simply must not be a conscious decision.

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31.535 - 45.176 Michelle Andrews

Imagine when we get our new studio later this year, which Zara and I have been strictly banned from even getting involved with. But imagine, I know you're saying don't hype it up, but it's got to be better than what we have right now.

45.276 - 50.565 Zara McDonald

This is true. When I say don't hype it up and people are probably thinking, trust me, babe, the bar wasn't that high.

Chapter 2: Which podcast is everyone in the office talking about?

50.585 - 65.889 Michelle Andrews

Like we weren't thinking that this was going to be out of this world. Someone made a good suggestion to me on Instagram. I'm sorry I don't have your name handy to be able to give you credit. She said, Michelle, you're so big on colour analysis. Surely you're applying colour analysis to the colour selection in the studio so that you look the hottest.

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66.57 - 68.954 Michelle Andrews

I'm glad you've said this out loud now because we'll be watching for it.

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69.234 - 116.791 Zara McDonald

Well, if everything's lime green. Yeah, we know, or light blue. Someone else said, why don't you just get Wi-Fi that works? And I thought, touche. Great questions all round. Guys, yeah. Yeah. Shit, yeah. Hello and welcome to Shameless, the pop culture podcast for smart people who love dumb stuff. You are joined, as always, by Melbourne writers Michelle Andrews and Zara MacDonald.

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116.931 - 120.217 Michelle Andrews

Hello, Zazie MacDonald, and hello, kind of here, kind of not, Annabelle Lee.

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120.377 - 122.041 Zara McDonald

Yay, hi! You want to be here today?

122.081 - 123.543 Michelle Andrews

Sure! Oh, you're in.

123.944 - 136.5 Zara McDonald

You're in, in. And the camera's on you, so... Hi. Babe, this is not a video episode. No one's going to see that. Oh no, and we had a big clashing of voices just then. That gave me anxiety. I'm sorry. No, no, it was my fault.

Chapter 3: What are the most inappropriate places listeners have been broken up with?

136.68 - 157.283 Zara McDonald

I spoke over you. Oh, well then you should be sorry. I'm so sorry. Wait, I was. Anyway, on today's show, Michelle has an argumentative symmetry. It's bluey themed. I know. High risk, high reward, I hear. Well, definitely high risk. TBC on the high reward part. Okay, we're also going to be talking about the podcast that everyone in the office has been speaking about.

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157.323 - 172.84 Zara McDonald

This came up at lunch about, I mean, this week. Came up at the lunch table this week and we thought, well, we simply have to talk about this on Shameless. And then what is the worst place you've ever been broken up with? The most inappropriate place you've ever been broken up with? We want to know because apparently lots of women are getting dumped on mountains.

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173.241 - 180.349 Michelle Andrews

Dumped on mountains. And so we reached out to you, the listeners, and we said, what's the weirdest place you've been split up with? Yeah. And you delivered.

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181.09 - 186.818 Zara McDonald

Well, I don't know about that because I haven't seen any of the suggestions yet. That's true. I just knew that Belly had like 25 questions that she liked.

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186.838 - 189.001 Michelle Andrews

I had a long list.

189.021 - 202.62 Zara McDonald

She had a long list. Before we get into anything, a very quick shout out to our sponsor Nespresso and their new Virtuo Up coffee machine inspired by style and discovery. Speaking of things that are popular at the lunch table, I would say our new Nespresso Virtuo Up coffee machine is very popular.

202.82 - 206.766 Michelle Andrews

The sound of that coffee machine is becoming like the backing track of my work day.

207.146 - 210.597 Zara McDonald

Exactly. Do you have a recommendation for me to kick us off?

210.617 - 228.062 Michelle Andrews

I've got one. Yeah. It's been, I had a double deck a week, two weeks in a row. We, we had double decks. Sorry, we. And then this week I said Calm Your Farm. Yeah, one is fine. One's fine. Laugh Out Loud UK Season 2. It's on Amazon from memory.

Chapter 4: What recommendations did Mich and Zara give for this week?

237.131 - 239.053 Zara McDonald

Oh, my God, you boomer.

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239.173 - 241.156 Michelle Andrews

I was looking at the Wikipedia page.

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241.356 - 242.357 Zara McDonald

Is it Last One Laughing?

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242.537 - 250.715 Michelle Andrews

It's officially called LOL. colon, last one laughing UK. So I think I saw LOL and I went laughing out loud.

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250.735 - 258.469 Zara McDonald

I'm so glad you've brought this to the show because I saw so many Alan Carr clips all over my feed and I kept wondering if this was a show for me.

258.67 - 278.262 Michelle Andrews

Yeah. So it's hosted by Jimmy Carr, obviously of no relation to Alan Carr. But Jimmy Carr is back for season two. He's hosting the thing. Ellen Carr is so fucking funny because if you haven't heard of the premise of Last One Laughing, it's a bunch of comedians thrown into a room together with a bunch of props and dumb shit to make each other laugh. But the rule is you're not allowed to laugh.

278.282 - 287.176 Michelle Andrews

I would seriously last 15 seconds in this room. Like someone tells me not to laugh and I like immediately, even the thought of not being able to laugh makes me want to laugh.

287.596 - 288.057 Zara McDonald

Yeah, same.

289.994 - 296.583 Michelle Andrews

They do such a good job, but the reason Alan Carr is so funny to watch, he doesn't do a very good job. Spoiler alert.

Chapter 5: How did the Dominican Sisters Open Mic podcast gain popularity?

318.514 - 336.101 Michelle Andrews

But I don't think they win anything. I think they just win like... Charity. No, I don't think there's any money. Oh, I appreciate them not pretending. They're just like, they're just there for a vibe. And a lot of them also stand up and do stand up comedy. In every episode, you get a bit of a stand up comedy set. I think, Bella, you've watched it? I have, yeah. It's very you coded.

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336.161 - 338.665 Michelle Andrews

I played a game similar to this on the weekend with my friends.

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339.045 - 339.326 Zara McDonald

Oh!

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339.987 - 358.648 Michelle Andrews

It was a lot... Weirder. Do you want to hear it? Yeah. We're already there. It's Dumb Stuff Fridays. What else are we here for? So two people verse each other. They're both on all fours looking down. Everyone goes, three, two, one. And then they both look up and they have to make a moo cow sound. What the fuck? To make the other person laugh. Okay, hear me out. I think we do this right now.

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358.708 - 363.153 Zara McDonald

I don't think I would laugh. Get on that floor. I do not think that this is going to be an issue for me at all.

Chapter 6: What unique insights do the Dominican Sisters share in their podcast?

363.353 - 383.44 Michelle Andrews

We can cut this from the episode. It won't take very long. You and I get down on all fours. Annabelle, can you film this on your phone, Annabelle, so we have this? Oh, my God, this is amazing. Face your mic in so that people can hear. Okay, down on all fours, doll. Okay, I am pregnant, so. Oh, come on. I have to go this way to get you both in. Okay, so what do we do? Yep, both on all fours.

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383.541 - 388.788 Michelle Andrews

Oh, we're always so close together. You have to be really close. And then I go three, two, one.

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388.808 - 390.731 Sister Joseph Andrew

I won.

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390.971 - 392.874 Zara McDonald

I was instant, Michelle.

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392.894 - 393.154

I won.

393.134 - 417.066 Zara McDonald

um i don't know if anyone could hear that i think we might have just cut that out but let the record show that was a nonchalant moo that's why i wanted to shock you so i decided when i was on all fours instead of going moo to just go moo yeah and that was really funny because no i wasn't trying to be funny i thought it was the easiest way for me to stay serious well that's why you're a smarter person than i am because i was on all fours

417.046 - 438.37 Michelle Andrews

just going I'm about to move I'm about to move I'm about to move you had strategy I'm not who came up with this game Stevie did oh Annabelle's boyfriend Stevie not just a pretty doctor not just a pretty doctor yeah he's gonna love this how do you move how do I move personally she would move like a proper move like a move I didn't last very long, so I would break almost instantly.

438.43 - 442.454 Zara McDonald

But it actually gets a lot. I love how you say I would break as if you're on SNL.

442.694 - 451.563 Michelle Andrews

I would break. It would be horrible. But it actually would be way more awkward to watch when it went for a really long time and both people are just mooing for like minutes and then we're all watching on like, oh.

Chapter 7: What surprising breakup stories did listeners share?

489.01 - 505.775 Zara McDonald

I think it's in part because – I'm quite passionate about wedding songs being aligned to their meaning. And I feel quite passionate that if a singer or a songwriter is writing a song with an intended meaning, we should respect that and have open arms with that meaning.

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506.196 - 515.972 Michelle Andrews

And I agree with you. I just probably don't agree to the level you do. Because if there's even one word in a song that you're like, that's got bad juju, you chuck it out as being not wedding friendly.

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516.112 - 527.466 Zara McDonald

I know. So her going through her songs, it just made me want to listen to the entire back catalogue again and, like, listen to them with a different lens. Yeah. I have a snippet for you. I know we don't do this in... Oh, my God, fun. I know. Here's something I prepared earlier.

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527.486 - 543.414 Zara McDonald

But I think what stuck with me, and I know this is going to sound like, oh, I feel like I've heard something like this before, but... The way she spoke about the song Mirrorball and the way she spoke about how that song kind of articulates how she's able to get through being so famous just really stuck with me in terms of how she put it together.

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543.434 - 546.44 Michelle Andrews

This is simply too smart for a Dumb Stuff Fridays episode, but I'll allow it.

546.62 - 547.141 Zara McDonald

It's Taylor Swift.

547.522 - 570.876 Taylor Swift

Being a person in the public eye, I've... I've really begun to realize that you are a mirror. Like, you are a mirror for your fans, for the media, for people on the internet, for just random, just people who don't even really care about your music, but they know who you are. However they feel about themselves and their life will be projected onto how they perceive you.

570.956 - 579.167 Taylor Swift

A public person who makes art is a mirror ball. And that's part of why I've been able to keep my wits about me through all this. Wow.

579.552 - 580.173 Zara McDonald

Did you like that?

Chapter 8: How do societal expectations influence breakup situations?

624.097 - 625.019 Michelle Andrews

Honesty is the best policy.

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625.499 - 633.207 Zara McDonald

Honesty? Is the best policy. And it's fine. All right. What's your eye? I am in need of some intrigue. Are you in need of some intrigue, Annabelle? Yes, desperately.

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633.567 - 656.353 Michelle Andrews

Okay. Shout out to the Creator Gearside because this is not a new conversation, what I'm about to tell you. However, it has re-entered the public domain this week because of a viral social media video published by the Creator Gearside. Sure. Cool. All right. So the TV show Bluey, children's TV show, known and loved globally. Little Dogs. Yes. Well, yeah, tell me what you know about Luke.

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656.587 - 658.089 Zara McDonald

So Bluey is a little dog.

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659.531 - 659.731

Sure.

660.672 - 676.211 Zara McDonald

And Bluey has two parents. And there was once an episode where dad's always fun, mum's not, so dad takes the kids to the pool. But dad doesn't prep anything, so mum has to turn up to the pool with all the stuff.

676.431 - 677.052 Michelle Andrews

Yeah.

677.072 - 695.543 Zara McDonald

And then the kids realise that while dad is fun, it's not fun when he doesn't prepare. And it was a subtle message about the women's mental load. Yeah. What do you know about Bluey? Like the character? That's it. Someone told me the plot of that episode a few weeks ago. It's a good episode. I've watched that episode. No, I know nothing else. It's Australian created. Okay.

697.047 - 698.231 Zara McDonald

Do you know if Bluey's a boy or a girl?

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