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Andrew Sharp 0:00
Hello and welcome to a free preview of Sharp Tech. Hello and welcome back to another episode of Sharp Tech. I'm Andrew Sharp and on the other line, Ben Thompson. Ben, how you doin'?
Ben Thompson 0:19
I'm doing okay, Andrew. Um, how are you?
Andrew Sharp 0:21
I'm doing all right. I'm pretty jealous. After the Nico Rossberg interview this week on Str Techari, you interviewed the absolute GOAT of F one broadcasting. Um it was a tremendous hang. I enjoyed it.
Ben Thompson 0:33
Uh yeah, I mean uh I usually don't interview VCs. Uh, you know, they're always wanting to talk their book, but like I guess I have an exception. If you have driven an F one car in R V C then then I will uh Well his life story Well, his life story
Andrew Sharp 0:45
i is super interesting, and the way he's leveraging F one into the venture career is also really smart. I actually thought what I
Ben Thompson 0:53
think there is an interesting point here, which is like you can there you you can look at someone like Nico Rosberg, absolute life of privilege, right? His dad was also an F one champion, one of the you know father son sort of combo there. He grows.
Andrew Sharp 1:07
also conducting the interview from Abiza where he owns a ice cream shop. Two ice cream shops in fact because they're doing so well. Two ice cream shops, in fact, because they're doing so
Ben Thompson 1:13
well. Um, you know, I've been coming here doing Visa my whole life. I mean, that's that's a line that I think that occurred in the interview. And you know, he speaks five languages, went to very high in international schools, obviously came up with you know, to succeed at F1. You know, it's always striking. Like you have to be in a cart by the time you're like five years old. Five years old might be too late, which which speaks to I always find it fascinating to talk to anyone at the absolute top of their game because I I there's so much that goes into it that you don't appro like how do you actually incorporate all the inputs of an F1 driver? It's like it's not just your eyes, it's not just your hands, it's like your butt, like your sense of
Ben Thompson 1:49
Just
Andrew Sharp 1:53
Like what the car is doing. And your sleep. I mean, there's all sorts of things you have to account for to excel at that level.
Ben Thompson 1:59
Right. But this applies to lots of levels, right? Like like you when you dig into anyone that is excellent, it turns out there's way more stuff that goes into it than you might think. And it's easy to see with sports who's excellent, who's not. But when you dive into things like business or whatever it might be, like there's very few people that just suddenly show up out of nowhere and are awesome at something. When you dig in, it turns out it's been years and years and years and years and years, right? Like I think you're a great podcast.

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Ben Thompson 2:24
And you can sort of like be a bit of a contrarian. And then I hear about you as a little Andrew. And like, you know, I've had the good fortune of I've had the good fortune of being your dad. Yeah. been like this for years. It's like yeah, no, you've been trading. It's like, yeah, no, you've been training to be to be uh you know, uh to have terrible AirPod takes literally since you came out of the crib. So that's right. That's right. Yep. Anyhow, what I appreciated about Nico is there's a bit where it's easy to dismiss someone like that, say, oh, well, they had all these advantages in life. And what is striking is how he like doesn't deny he's had advantages. He just relentlessly identifies his advantages and then leverages them to do the next step.
Ben Thompson 3:06
Right. And that's a bit, that's what distinguishes people who sure they start out in a good place, but not everyone who starts out in a good Place actually accomplishes big things because there's a bit about you, you have to actually take advantage of your circumstances. And um, and it I just thought that like that it was interesting to tie that all together. It was just a little bit of like, you know, is this like a hardcore? Like, I mean, talking to, you know, like there's a Justin Huang interview in the news this week. I might write about it the next week. No, this is a bit of a softball sort of bit, but it actually was more interesting to me than I expected.

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