The Shawn Ryan Show
#258 Adam Bry - Why China Fears Skydio’s Rise in AI Drone Technology
01 Dec 2025
Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
Adam Brie, welcome to the show, man. Very excited to be here, Sean. Very excited to have you.
What do we have? Oh, shit.
We have a third joining us. So this is the Skydio R10.
That's detected.
That's detected. No way. So this is our brand new indoor tactical drone designed to get into dangerous situations. You don't have to send a person. And as you can tell, it's got a speaker on here. It's detected a threat.
Attention.
Attention. Please exit the area immediately.
I repeat, please exit the area immediately. Is somebody behind that, or is that programmed in there?
Uh, so you can do two way communication. Um, so you can actually like perch this thing and establish two way communication. If you've got a bear barricaded suspect or something like that, or you can just have prerecorded audio where it says whatever you want it to say. No shit.
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Chapter 2: What innovative features does the Skydio R10 drone offer?
in the hands of some of our early access customers.
Congratulations. Who is the market for this? Is this going to be in everybody's home? So initially- Shopping malls?
Yeah. Initially, it'll be heavily law enforcement. And right now, drones are used by- indoor drones like this would be used by high-end SWAT teams. And we certainly expect that the R-10 will be used by SWAT teams in high-stakes situations.
But our real goal with this is to build something that's much more accessible for kind of everyday patrol officers, because they're the ones that oftentimes find themselves in the most dangerous situation. They don't have backup. They're out there by themselves. And so this thing really becomes like a flying robot assistant. So we expect it to be heavily adopted in law enforcement. But we also...
are seeing incredible interest in critical infrastructure inspection. So we work with energy utilities that have all kinds of gnarly indoor infrastructure in generation plants and so on, where they have to do really dangerous, slow, expensive inspections. You know, they have to shut the whole plant down. They have to build scaffolding.
Somebody has to go and like climb around to look for cracks and defects. And so for them, just being able to put a drone in the air, fly around, see this stuff super quickly, super efficiently is is a total game changer. And then Over time, we also expect this to be adopted by the military for confined space type situational awareness work. Wow.
Wow. Man, your customer, I mean, we had talked about this off camera right before the interview, but my old buddy, Jake Johnson, who apparently did some work for you guys. I mean, he gave me a little bit of inside baseball. on everything you guys are doing. Your customer is pretty much everyone and anyone, seems like.
I mean, from inspecting naval ships for rust, to power lines, to cell phone towers, to SWAT teams, to clearing buildings. It's crazy, man.
Yeah, I mean, you have so many markets. The thing that is exciting to me The way that I think about it, we really serve the critical industries that our civilization depends on. Historically, Silicon Valley has generally been oriented towards tech and finance and social media, and that stuff is all important.
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Chapter 3: How do drones enhance law enforcement operations?
Made in the USA. Still legal in all 50 states. Awesome. Awesome. Should be good to go. And... You're in California, right? I am. All right. We got you a special model SIG here. All right. California compliant. Go ahead, open it up. It's not loaded. You like firearms, right?
It's been a long time since I've shot a firearm, but I was very into it in summer camp. Good deal.
All right. So that is the SIG P365 Legion. It's all metal. It's got those little slits up front. The barrel up top. Up top. There you go. For gas dispersion. Helps you with the muzzle flip. It's actually... The normal version has 17 rounds in the magazine plus one. I don't know what the California compliant model has. I think it might be 10.
But it's got a little cut there if you want to put an optic on there. Anyways, that is like the latest and greatest everyday carry gun. That's the rage everybody's going on about. And so we thought you might like. That's amazing. That's my like one.
Yeah. I really appreciate it, Sean. This is fantastic. My pleasure. I'm allowed to take this back to California with me.
Well, yeah. At least right now you are. All right. But great. And then... I have a Patreon account. It's a subscription account we've turned into quite the community. They've been here with me since the beginning, and they're the real reason that I get to sit down with you today. So one of the things I do is offer them the opportunity to ask every guest a question. So this is from Leland King.
What kind of range or flight distance do drones like Skydio X10D have during autonomous missions? I'm curious about this because I often consider how challenging it would be to have a swarm of drones launching and landing at your position while attempting to conduct reconnaissance on a nearby enemy force without being detected. Yeah.
So the military variant of our product, the X-10D, is what's called a short range reconnaissance system. So the typical range is out to six, seven miles, kind of like max flight distance, max flight time. Most of the missions are shorter than that. Most of the missions tend to be in the kind of like one to two mile range. In the civilian sector, our drones fly with LTE modems on them.
And so they can basically go anywhere that you have LTE coverage. No kidding. And we've done flights that are 10, 15 miles in LTE conditions.
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Chapter 4: What are the implications of drone technology for public safety?
And then I started competing when I was 13 or 14 and then won national championships, I think, when I was 16. And and 17. Holy shit. So I was like, in that world, I was kind of a little bit of like the child prodigy, you know, like kind of coming up, coming up, flying these things.
But I think I was just, I was super fortunate because I got exposure to this stuff at a very young age and really developed, before I had a formal engineering education, I developed like a really deep intuitive sense for how these things work and how how flight dynamics work. And, you know, when you're flying it yourself, the control system is all in your head.
Um, but that kind of like deep intuitive understanding, uh, is, is one of the things that I think has enabled me to, um, to do, you know, both the research that I later did as a grad student, and then do some of the things that we're, we're doing at Skydio. Like one way that I think about what we're doing is we're building the skills of an expert pilot into the drone.
And the foundation of that for me really started with, like, my skill as a radio-controlled airplane pilot. Wow.
When did you start thinking about autonomous drones versus, you know, versus RC planes?
So it was pretty obvious, like, basically from the beginning that I was going to be an engineer. I mean, I loved building and flying RC airplanes, and I also loved kind of physics and math.
And I had some formative experiences in high school really where I first got exposure to this idea that you can do kind of like theoretical analysis and math and optimization that results in something cool happening in the physical world.
So, you know, everybody does like the high school physics bridge competition where you like, you know, you build the bridge out of popsicle sticks to see how much weight it can support. And, you know, I had some experiences on that, like figuring out how to optimize this thing and make it really efficient.
I think probably in undergrad in engineering was the first time that I got to write software that does something in the physical world, which I, at the time and still today, find to just be a magical experience when, you know, you sit there and write code, you give the computer instructions, and then you see those manifest in real world with the behavior and action of a robot.
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Chapter 5: What advancements in drone technology does Skydio showcase?
It's just doing all that on its own? It's doing all that on its own. So now I'm going to go backwards. I can't even look where I'm going, right? And it's just going to weave its way through, keep itself safe. So it comes up to the tree wall here. It'll find its way through that gap. And this is just a huge difference of what it's like to fly a drone, right?
Like normally, the normal experience of flying a drone is like, I'm looking at that thing. I'm trying to figure out where it is in relation to the tree. I'm worried about crashing it. And here, just don't give a fuck. Just full stick forward. Holy shit, dude. We can turn around here. So this will give you a sense of what the cameras can do. So here we are looking at ourselves.
So right now I'm on kind of the wider field of view camera. If I punch in, so you'll see a transition here to the zoom camera. So I can like... Wow.
Chapter 6: How does Skydio's drone technology differ from traditional drones?
And it shows the thermal right next to it. Exactly, yeah. So there's my Skydio logo. I can punch back out. We've got the thermal feed. So we're obviously going to pop on thermal. I gotta be honest, I don't like seeing myself... It's not your best angle? Looks like an AC-130 Spectre gunship is targeting us right now. Yeah. What's the thing sticking out of the side?
The thing on the side is an attachment. It's a speaker. We've got four attachment ports. You can put anything you want on there. We've got a spotlight. We've got night sense, which gives it the ability to basically have night vision. The speaker enables you to talk to people on the ground. For example, if you want to get somebody's attention, Attention, please exit the area immediately.
I repeat, please exit the area immediately.
Chapter 7: What role do drones play in public safety and law enforcement?
I think we've got- Oh, nice. Nice. Always a fan favorite. Miami Beach Police Department- They requested that? They're one of our great Drone and Source Responder customers. They deal with huge drunk crowds around spring break, and this has become a very useful tool for them to communicate with the spring break folks. If you want, you can fly it here. It's a little bit like playing a video game.
You were asking about how hard are these things to fly. The right stick is going to move you around. The first thing to get familiar with, if you push that right stick forward, that'll push you forward. And then back will go back. And then you can go side to side. And I always recommend to get comfortable with the autonomy system.
Just, you know, jam the stick forward into some trees and see what happens. Yeah, so that's how you turn. Left stick will turn. Do that comfortable. Just do it. Here we go.
Chapter 8: How does Skydio plan to compete with Chinese drone manufacturers?
Yeah. Get the fuck out of here. It's going to go through all that shit? I mean, it has a tolerance for how close it'll let you get. But yeah, I mean, so you're like, you're how far into flying it? Like one minute into flying it? This is like world-class drone pilot stuff, like flying at high speed through obstacles. And with the autonomy system, it's just... Look at that shit.
It's a piece of cake. The real point of it is it's fun to watch it weave through obstacles, but the point of it is that you can focus on the mission.
If you were a cop or an energy utility worker, you'd be looking down at the screen because you'd be wanting to do an inspection on something and you can totally comfortably fly just looking down at the screen without worrying about where the drone is or crashing into anything. If you look down, you can see what it sees. The left wheel here will control the gimbal.
You don't have to look at the drone because it's not going to crash. You can push the wheel. It's down below. See this thing? Oh, yeah. That controls gimbal pitch. Then on the right one, it controls zoom. The right wheel will zoom you in and out. And this is the point, is you just focus on the mission. Like, I want to inspect a damaged conductor.
You can just perch yourself next to it and zoom in and see whatever you need to see. And then when you're done, do you want to land it? Or you want to keep flying it? Yeah. You can test the obstacle avoidance on yourself. That's wild, man. Yeah. All right, here we go. Let's play some chicken. Make sure you get it properly lined up. In the crosshairs there.
you've got a bunch of telemetry here telling you what's going on like you've got your altitude your heading it's estimating the wind speed it's flying over what we call connect fusion so right now it's got a point-to-point radio so there's a antennas here that are talking to the drone but it's also got cellular built in this has a cellular modem in it the drone has a cellular modem in it it's using connect fusion to fuse both those two things together so the quality of the video link
is basically the sum of the point-to-point radio plus the cellular, and it can fly on either. So you could fly this thing out 10 miles, the point-to-point radio connection would go away, but it would just keep going based on cellular. I'm sure with your background, you can imagine this being a useful capability on the battlefield.
From a soldier's perspective, it basically just removes the mystery of what's happening around you. You can go out a couple of miles, get real-time awareness, know exactly who's coming, what they've got, where they're moving. And this, so this is actually a good example. You see these power lines, like this is the kind of work that our energy utility customers would do.
Like they would inspect those things. They would stop at every tower and zoom in or out and look for damage. Or if there was an outage or something, they could find what the issue was and direct the responding folks on the ground. So when you want, so typically what I would do here is you can just, when you want it to come home, if you tap that button there. Okay. So you just tap, I can do it.
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