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215. i interviewed my THERAPIST?!! validation, dbt, stigma + more feat. dr. caroline fleck
23 Mar 2025
#215 Today's guest is Dr. Caroline Fleck—a licensed psychologist, corporate consultant, author, and an Adjunct Clinical Instructor at Stanford University. She is a respected voice in psychology and has been featured in national media outlets, including The New York Times, Good Morning America, and The Huffington Post. In this episode, we discuss:+ The stigma around getting treated with DBT+ If meditation can help in treating depression+ How you see the world when you're depressed+ The roles of acceptance & change in DBT+ What types of people are motivated by acceptance vs. change+ Why Gen Z is facing a mental health crisis + Validation & why it's so important to start practicing it+ 8 ways to validate someone else + The key difference between validation & praise+ Why we self-invalidate & how to change this+ What happens when we're chronically invalidated+ Using DBT to treat self-harm & suicidality+ Supporting a loved one in crisis without reinforcing harmful behaviors+ Seeking external validation + The best way to describe living with a mental health disorder+ How suffering can add value to your life+ What Gen Z should know about validation+ So much more!Dr. Fleck's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/carolinefleckphd/MENTIONED + Dr. Fleck's website+ Dr. Fleck's book+ Dr. Fleck on TikTok+ Grit Lab episodeSHOP GUEST RECOMMENDATIONS: https://amzn.to/3A69GOCSTARBUCKS GIFTCARD GIVEAWAY: Want coffee on me?! Each month I'll be randomly choosing a winner to receive a Starbucks giftcard! To enter this giveaway, all you have to do is leave a review of the podcast on Spotify and/or Apple Podcasts and DM me on a screenshot of your review on Instagram. Win bonus entries by tagging the podcast on your Instagram story or TikTok! Good luck!LET'S CONNECT+ Instagram (@shepersistedpodcast)+ Website (shepersistedpodcast.com)+ YouTube (Sadie Sutton: She Persisted Podcast)+ Twitter (@persistpodcast)+ Facebook (@shepersistedpodcast)+ TikTok (@shepersistedpodcast)+ [email protected]© 2020 She Persisted LLC. This podcast is copyrighted subject matter owned by She Persisted LLC and She Persisted LLC reserves all rights in and to the podcast. Any use without She Persisted LLC’s express prior written consent is prohibited.
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