The science of self-worth (and how to boost yours)

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Manoush Zomorodi 0:00
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Regina Barber 0:20
From NPR. Hey short waivers, Regina Barber here. Do you feel like you have high self-esteem? Or do you think it's low? Or maybe you're like me and it just ping pongs between the two all the time?
Dr. Marisa G. Franco 0:36
Do you feel good about yourself or do you feel like you can't admit it if you don't? The paradox I would say of self-worth is that people that are truly worthy can admit when they don't feel worthy. Because again, they're all about just attuning to and expressing their internal world as it is.
Regina Barber 0:52
Self-esteem is at the heart of Marissa Franco's new book, Worth. She's a psychologist, and recently she sat down with Mariel Sagata, host of NPR self-help podcast LifeKit. Hey Marielle. Hey. So how was that conversation with
Marielle Segarra 1:06
Marissa? Yeah, it was really interesting. You know, I learned a lot about how researchers think about and study self-esteem. For instance, like what happens in the bodies of people with low self-esteem?
Regina Barber 1:19
I mean, when I feel like I have low self-esteem, I definitely feel it in my body.
Marielle Segarra 1:25
And actually, this one's kind of wild. If someone with low self-esteem experiences something that contradicts their view of themselves, like they get a compliment or an award. They can actually have a negative physical reaction to that misalignment. For instance, their their blood pressure will go up.

What is self‑esteem and why does it feel like a roller‑coaster?

Marielle Segarra 1:44
Yeah. Makes complete sense to me. Yeah, I mean I found that really surprising. And the fact also that this can have a long term Affect like their body will continue to
Dr. Marisa G. Franco 1:57
react over time. There was one study where that looked at self-esteem when positive events happen to people. And it found that when people had low self-esteem and positive events happened to them, they got sicker months later. And when you say they got sicker, they had more doctors' appointments.
Regina Barber 2:13
Yeah, this is I think for some people counterintuitive, but for me, I feel like maybe it makes kind of sense. Cause your reality is just I don't know, it's not fitting.
Marielle Segarra 2:23
Mm-hmm.
Regina Barber 2:24
It's unsettling. Yeah. It's completely unsettling. Yeah.
Marielle Segarra 2:27
Well Marissa says this is related to something called self verification theory.
Dr. Marisa G. Franco 2:33
Which is this idea that We look for the world to verify our sense of self. And if it doesn't, it it influences our sense of coherence and control, right? And so that can undermine well being.
Marielle Segarra 2:47
So today, my gift to you, Gina, and to all the listeners is a look at what science has to say about self-worth and why it works the way it does.
Regina Barber 2:57
I am definitely here for it. Thank you for this gift. You're listening to Shorewave, the science podcast from NPR.
Manoush Zomorodi 3:08
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Regina Barber 4:29
All right, Marielle, I'm excited to pass the baton and hear you and Marissa walk through this all.

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