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The supertree shielding coastlines and storing carbon

22 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What role do mangroves play in supporting coastal ecosystems?

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On Consider This, NPR's afternoon news podcast, we cover everything from politics to the economy to the world. But every story starts with a question. At NPR, we stand for your right to be curious, to make sense of the biggest story of the day and what it means for you. Follow Consider This wherever you get your podcasts.

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24.833 - 46.348 Emily Kwong

You're listening to Shortwave from NPR. Hey, everyone. Emily Kwong here. And today we have a story of good news about climate change. And as part of NPR's Climate Solutions Week, two of my colleagues are here to tell that story. Ryan Kelman and Rebecca Herscher. Hi. Hi. All right. Where are we going today?

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46.909 - 58.219 Rebecca Hersher

This story starts in Cambodia. And Cambodia, as you may know, experienced horrific political violence in the 1970s under a group called the Khmer Rouge.

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58.537 - 67.482 Emily Kwong

Yeah, I'm familiar with this history. During the Cambodian genocide, it's estimated that 1.7 million people died. It completely changed the course of history for that country.

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67.642 - 90.94 Rebecca Hersher

Yeah. And even after the regime fell in 1979, things were still really hard for those who survived because the Khmer Rouge also destroyed the country's economy. And that's where this story really begins, in those years just after the Khmer Rouge's reign, the late 1970s and into the 1980s.

90.92 - 113.62 Ryan Kellman

So, yeah, that's the period we were really interested in when we traveled to Cambodia for a reporting trip recently. And we spent a couple days with a group of people who lived through that time after the Khmer Rouge fell, when the Cambodian economy was in tatters. And we wanted to learn from them how their experiences led to them becoming global leaders in addressing climate change.

113.64 - 120.927 Emily Kwong

Wow. So from the aftermath of a genocide to the front lines of solving climate change, that's pretty incredible.

120.907 - 126.413 Rebecca Hersher

Yeah, it's a wild tale. And it all hinges on one type of tree.

127.334 - 137.886 Emily Kwong

Today on the show, how one tree saved a community. And how that same tree is helping all of us right now. You're listening to Shortwave, the science podcast from NPR.

Chapter 2: How did Cambodia's history impact its coastal communities?

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called Koh Kresna.

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It's right next to the ocean. He says people had nothing.

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196.085 - 203.498 Ryan Kellman

And so people in town cut down local mangrove trees to burn and make into charcoal, he says, to cook with.

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204.44 - 217.182 Rebecca Hersher

So at the time, it maybe didn't really seem like that big of a deal. The folks were obviously dealing with other problems. And, you know, mangroves are sort of, let's say, innocuous looking, right?

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217.28 - 224.578 Emily Kwong

Not to me. They look kind of magical because the roots are aerial. They're like floating above the water. But I know they're like super common in this part of the world.

224.879 - 248.207 Rebecca Hersher

Yeah, totally. I mean, they just look like shrubs. They're densely packed with this tangled mess of a root system. Whew. It happens to be specially adapted to live in saltwater. And so that also means the areas where you generally find mangroves are sort of like tidal marshy. I love them, but they're more swampy areas than, you know, sandy beaches.

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So for some people, they might not look all that amazing. But no matter what you think they look like, these trees are amazing. They basically have superpowers. Three superpowers, in fact, that we want to talk about today.

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Super trees with three superpowers. Let's hear them. First up, super mangrove power number one is... It's trapping carbon.

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Yeah.

Chapter 3: What are the superpowers of mangrove trees?

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In the world.

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433.752 - 448.437 Emily Kwong

These trees are clearly exceptional. So, I mean, thinking about the history you're describing earlier, when people in Cambodia were cutting them down in the 80s for fuel, for warmth, to survive, what happened to the local environments?

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448.484 - 474.216 Rebecca Hersher

Without the trees to do all that they do and provide that nursery for the fish, the ecosystem essentially collapsed. The shrimp, sardines, bream, crabs, the whole fish population, the sea life in general was decimated. So without the fish or anything else to catch, the nearby villages were also in big trouble. So as a result, some folks left to go find a life somewhere else.

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475.098 - 480.111 Rebecca Hersher

And, you know, the people that stay just had to struggle through these really difficult times.

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480.277 - 498.864 Ryan Kellman

Yeah. Yeah. And it's not just Cochresna where people cut down mangrove trees. You know, a lot of people around the world want to live on the coast. There's a lot of pressure to clear cut these swampy mangrove forests to make way for humans. Half of mangrove forests are at risk of collapse by 2050, according to the U.N.

499.725 - 504.192 Rebecca Hersher

But Emily, this is the part where this turns into a good news story.

Chapter 4: How do mangroves contribute to carbon storage?

504.172 - 506.714 Emily Kwong

It better, because that's what you've been promising.

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507.095 - 533.858 Rebecca Hersher

So over the last three decades, there's been a massive effort by scientists and international ecological protection groups to spread awareness about the importance of these threatened mangroves. And they've really made an impact. And Kyosot experienced it firsthand. We started to educate each other, he says. So, you know, they're spreading the knowledge about not cutting the trees down.

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533.922 - 556.272 Ryan Kellman

Yeah, and since 2003, Keogh's village and a neighboring village, they've worked together to protect more than 145 acres of mangrove forest along... that section of Cambodia's coastline. And in the last two years, they've actually planted more than 2,000 mangrove saplings. And similar efforts are happening in other parts of the world. It's really adding up to something.

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Net loss of mangroves decreased by 44% in the period between 2010 and 2020, relative to the previous decade, according to a 2023 UN analysis.

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568.288 - 572.974 Emily Kwong

Oh, so you're saying that the loss of mangrove trees has slowed down considerably.

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Yeah, the world's mangroves are headed in the right direction. And if we can keep going, it would be really good news because maybe the total amount of mangrove forests on Earth could actually have a net increase eventually.

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Yeah.

587.351 - 592.38 Rebecca Hersher

Rebecca and I got to see this restored and protected mangrove forest in Cambodia near Koh Kresna.

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Oh.

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