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The world has a groundwater problem. Can we solve it?

24 Mar 2026

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Chapter 1: What is groundwater and why is it important?

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30.473 - 40.376 Emily Kwong

Hey, short wavers, Emily Kwong here, continuing our water series, where we dive into all things H2O. With me is producer and fellow mermaid, Burleigh McCoy. Hi, Burleigh.

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40.757 - 51.036 Burleigh McCoy

Hi, Emily. So I'm here with part two, aquifers. And don't worry, it's okay if you missed part one. So an aquifer is just an underground layer of rock or materials that holds water.

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51.577 - 52.939 Emily Kwong

Oh, so it's not like a bathtub?

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53.339 - 73.862 Burleigh McCoy

It's not. It's more like water between rocks that gets to the surface through wells and springs. And that groundwater is responsible for about half of the water people use globally. Wow. Thank you, aquifers, for keeping us all alive. Seriously. And for this episode, I called up someone who has a very close relationship with his local aquifer.

74.213 - 85.126 Hayes Kelman

Earliest memory of farming probably would be sleeping on the floor of a combine while my dad drove the combine through the field and harvested corn or wheat.

85.787 - 100.825 Burleigh McCoy

This is Hayes Kelman. He's a fifth-generation farmer in western Kansas, and he loves it, getting his hands in the soil, watching a crop grow from seed to harvest. But around the time he was in high school, he noticed something about the water they used to irrigate the family farm.

101.345 - 111.909 Hayes Kelman

I started watching how... Certain wells were just dropping off significantly, how we were removing a sprinkler from a certain area of land because we didn't have enough water.

111.949 - 127.972 Burleigh McCoy

So his farm sits above the Ogallala or High Plains Aquifer, which is a huge aquifer. It spans eight states and it's losing water like a lot of other aquifers around the world. Sometimes it's because of cities, but a lot of the time it's because of farms using a lot of water.

Chapter 2: How is the Ogallala Aquifer being affected by farming?

268.337 - 269.939 Burleigh McCoy

So fill the aquifer back up.

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269.979 - 276.548 Emily Kwong

Yeah. If we don't recharge our aquifers, fill them back up with water, I imagine it can really alter the landscape.

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276.747 - 283.856 Burleigh McCoy

Yeah, if the aquifer is by a coast and it gets really low, saltwater can flow in and then contaminate the freshwater in that aquifer.

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284.216 - 290.705 Emily Kwong

So in the places where scientists saw water in decline in these aquifers, how much water are we talking?

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290.945 - 310.954 Burleigh McCoy

So on average, more than about four inches per year, which imagine if you have a well, that can eventually be catastrophic. And so a third of those aquifers are losing more than about 20 inches per year. Deborah Perrone is a water resource engineer at the University of California, Santa Barbara, who worked on the study.

311.275 - 323.693 Burleigh McCoy

And she says the places with the most rapid declines tended to be in dry regions around the world with lots of cultivated land. So in India, the U.S., China, Mexico, Saudi Arabia, and lots of places.

324.134 - 349.502 Deborah Perrone

When you have declines in precipitation, you're getting hit twice. You're getting hit with supply because you no longer have that recharge. You no longer have the ability to replenish your aquifer. And then you're also getting hit with demand because now people don't have other sources of water. They can't do rain fed irrigation. Their rivers probably have lower flows.

349.582 - 353.487 Deborah Perrone

Their reservoirs have less water in them. So now they're turning to groundwater.

354.007 - 363.758 Emily Kwong

So there really is a domino effect here. In places where the aquifer is depleting the most, are people just they're going to run out of water entirely? That is one possibility.

Chapter 3: What challenges do farmers face due to declining aquifers?

520.81 - 541.333 Mohamed Shams Adoha

And he says... By knowing the distance, a geodesist can turn that into a field of gravitational anomaly on the Earth's surface. And the only reason the Earth's gravity will change within a matter of, let's say, a month, is because of movement of water from one place to another, from one season to another.

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541.347 - 552.583 Emily Kwong

So they're using changes in the gravitational field on the Earth's surface as kind of an indicator of water movement. Can they see if there's more or less water in an area?

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553.063 - 570.628 Burleigh McCoy

They can, but only by the amount that it's changed by, not the total amount that's there. And it also can't tell you about water changes in fine detail, like monitoring a single well can. So like for Hayes, the farmer we heard from earlier, he's consulting local experts that study his specific area.

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570.862 - 581.974 Hayes Kelman

The hydrologists and geologists, they've figured out what amount of water we can pull from the aquifer to become stable. Because it does have a recharge rate.

582.214 - 592.705 Burleigh McCoy

And so those experts will tell him how much he needs to reduce his water use over time so that the aquifer can recharge enough to be a renewable resource. And he says he's ready to make those changes.

593.225 - 595.247 Hayes Kelman

Everything we do is for our kids and for the future.

595.488 - 612.63 Burleigh McCoy

But he admits it's going to be hard. His farm used to sell a lot of something called Milo. That's a grain that uses less water, but now no one is buying it and it's just sitting there. So he still needs to grow the more water intensive wheat and corn to make a living. Those are the products people want more. Exactly.

612.671 - 624.882 Burleigh McCoy

And he points out that if people stop growing as much corn, for example, cattle farmers are going to feel it because they feed that to their cows and the meat packing plants are affected because cattle numbers then drop. So he wonders.

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