37. I read my former boss's spicy book (STRANGE BEDFELLOWS)
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
I love a heist.
Yeah.
I just, I love a heist. I've always wanted to do one.
And it's sort of like a low stakes heist,
which is very enjoyable. It's kind of like a victimless crime.
Welcome to Shoulda Books, the podcast about all the books you should have read by now. My name is Jonathan, and today I am joined by writer, author, screenwriter, former producer, my former boss, Amanda Mortlock. Amanda, welcome.
Thank you.
We were just talking in the Patreon cold open about some of the things that we worked on together. I was a production assistant on a number of things, but you are not doing that anymore. You are a writer now. You write for the CBS show Tracker.
Correct.
And you have a debut novel, Strange Bedfellows, available... September 22nd. September 22nd. It's available for pre-order right now. It is much spicier than I think I realized.
Yes, also me.
What is Amanda Mortlock’s new novel “Strange Bedfellows” about?
You surprised yourself with how spicy it ended up being? And
when I'm editing, I'm always like...
I was in an Uber the other day and reading it on my phone because I... Sure, that's why I read
also.
Yeah. And look, I know a lot of... my listeners, I know a lot of you, this is, you know, this is old hat for you that you, you, you read the, you know, scenes like this don't phase you at all, but I, I'm, I'm new to the romance genre and I'm sitting in the back of this Uber. I'm reading this scene and I'm like, oh my goodness, oh my goodness, this driver has no idea. He has no idea what I'm reading right now. But I thought it was very well written. And it's very, I'm so engaged with the characters. What is this story
about? Okay. Stories about Cleo, who is a college girl who is also sometimes a cat. And she basically learns that her boyfriend is a witch and she's his familiar. And I would say hijinks, but like really toxic hijinks.
Yes. Yeah. Hijinks of a nature. Yeah.
And it's basically, you know, what first love and like your first serious love is like,
I
think, where it's not always... Like I think, you know, in books they can come out very idyllic and I sort of wanted to play the like a little bit more real or and, you know, obviously the idea that she's a cat was a big part of it of like, what do people who are like cats behave like and like,
what is what is
that like?
Yeah, no. And I think you do a fantastic job of that, of like, because it's told through Cleo's perspective, not the whole book. There's other parts that are told from other perspectives, but I shan't spoil that. But when we're in Cleo's perspective, we're either in her as a human or as a cat. And it's so fun to see that juxtaposition because like the, I can only assume that you've had a lot of cats in your life. Is that correct? Yes.
I've had a few. And when I came up with the book, I had a cat and I think a lot of it, I knew about the cat side before I knew why she was a cat.
Okay.
But it came from sort of the question of like, what does my cat think he's doing? Like, what does he think is happening?
And that's the thing is that like, I think that you have just, uh, you've nailed the inner monologue of a cat because I think of like my, I, I, the cat that's in my life is my parents' cat. Uh, his name's Penino. Shout out Penino. Penino. And I'm just like, oh yeah, I do think that it makes him make sense because I'm like, that is what he would be thinking. Yeah. And you know, when
they're like chasing things or like running around the middle of the night, you're like, I'm sure you know why you're doing
this.
I don't. So it was a lot of like trying to get into that.
And
then in the same way of like when a cat, like when a dog is nice to you, you're like, well, that's your job. Yeah.
Yeah.
When a cat chooses you, you're like, oh my goodness,
I've done
something amazing. I'm so special.
And
then when it's mean to you or ignores you or it scratches you, you're like, I'm so sorry. What
have I done? My
bad. And I feel like that's sort of reflective in her relationship with Wes.
Absolutely. Yeah. I think that the opinions that she forms with people while she's a cat, she carries into being a person. And yeah, you're absolutely right that when you get...
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–1:12
2
What is Amanda Mortlock’s new novel “Strange Bedfellows” about?
1:12–8:41
3
How does the story use a cat’s perspective to explore first love?
8:41–21:13
4
Which tropes does Amanda dislike and how did she subvert them in the book?
21:13–36:00
5
What inspired Amanda’s writing style and how did her cat experience shape the novel?
36:00–45:27
6
Which YA books does Amanda recommend and why (e.g., His Dark Materials, The Handmaid’s Tale)?
45:27–48:55
7
How does “The Handmaid’s Tale” relate to today’s cultural climate?
48:55–50:56
8
What is the true‑crime book “The Feather Thief” and why does Amanda love it?
50:56–53:45