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Drama! Gibbs-White scores late VAR pen for Forest to sink lowly West Ham

06 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

7.743 - 27.189 Unknown

This is the Sky Sports Premier League podcast. Thanks for joining us. We were at the London Stadium on Tuesday night to see West Ham play Nottingham Forest. This is how we saw things at full time.

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27.209 - 37.243 Rob Green

A fabulous three points for Forest. An agonising zero points for the Irons and Nuno.

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38.692 - 64.716 Rob Green

it was areola's error really ultimately fouling morgan gibbs white that saw the forest captain able to step up to convert the spot kick after somerville authority given them a two nil lead earlier in the half only to see dominguez equalize for forest and set them on their way for the turnarounds the own goal from marillo in the first half seems a long time ago

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65.422 - 91.352 Rob Green

And for West Ham United, it seems a long, long way away as far as safety is concerned. Nottingham Forest have increased the gap from the bottom three to the bottom three, and maybe they can try and push on from here, but for West Ham United, a sorry state of affairs when it comes to where they are in the Premier League table.

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92.173 - 100.947 Rob Green

A significant night it feels, and the final score of the London Stadium, West Ham United 1, Nottingham Forest 2.

Chapter 2: What was the significance of Nottingham Forest's win over West Ham?

102.175 - 113.552 Michael Dawson

Well, it was a crucial win for Nottingham Forest in the end. And Michael, that means they opened the gap seven points clear now of the relegation zone. How big is that?

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113.572 - 133.144 Unknown

Oh, it was a huge second half performance. I mean, they rode the look, very fortunate with a couple of decisions that went their way. Fine moments in that second half that could have determined a completely different outcome. But you could see the relief from Sean Dyche, celebration from those Nottingham Forest players. and seven points clear as West Ham, as you've just said.

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133.462 - 140.511 Michael Dawson

It feels like this is going to be a really big result for West Ham and not for the right reason, Bob.

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140.531 - 162.237 Unknown

No, 10 games without a win, more than a quarter of the season, really. You're wondering, where's the answer now? Looking at Nuno and saying, where's he going to go? Where are the club going to go with this? You can't see the games going on much longer than this. You can't see the club continuing much longer than this with the results like this. They need 30 points at least.

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to stay up, to have any chance of staying up, they're not going to get close at this rate.

168.033 - 168.818 Michael Dawson

What do you think they're going to do?

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I can't see him staying. I can't see it now. I can't see how you can go this long without winning a game. Tonight wasn't the worst performance by a long shot. It wasn't the worst. And they still didn't get a result. It's heartbreaking. But I don't see another answer to this.

187.625 - 193.033 Michael Dawson

Do you think, Michael, they're going to feel hard done by this result, West Ham, or did Nottingham Forest deserve it?

Chapter 3: How did VAR influence the outcome of the match?

193.688 - 217.941 Unknown

I think you look at the second half, I wouldn't say Nottingham Forest deserves it, they got the job done, and it can be fine margins, you see that goal from Somerville, I mean, you talk about luck, when it went in I went, oh, game over, and then all of a sudden VAR comes in, it was the right outcome, right decision that came to it, which we'll talk about it, and it sort of lifted Nottingham Forest, it gave them some belief, they were fortunate with the goal, I mean, poor defending from West Ham at 1-1,

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But then you think, here we go. There was only one team that I believe had the momentum and were going to get on and win the game, and it was Nottingham Forest.

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224.843 - 228.555 Michael Dawson

West Ham are going to be looking back at that disallowed goal, aren't they? And thinking that could have changed the game.

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228.704 - 247.609 Unknown

Yeah, that and the penalty, the nuances of the law, the wording of the law is so frustrating to see it happening. Technically, they're right decisions, but you're looking at them saying, how? What does football expect at times? What are you expecting the goalkeeper to do? What are you expecting the striker to do?

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248.15 - 266.164 Unknown

They're the technicalities and the wordings, and it's just so frustrating at such a difficult time. When things are going wrong for you. Yeah. Fine moments in the game. The chance to make it 2-0, it would have been completely different, the outcome, if that goal had stood, in my opinion, but it didn't. And that's the fine margins in football.

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When you're down and things aren't going quite right, the rubber of green doesn't go your way.

276.005 - 288.411 Michael Dawson

Well, who knows what that result will do for Nuno Espirito Santo, but it certainly was a good night, though, for Morgan Gibbs-White, who managed to get the winner for Nottingham Forest in the end. Let's hear from him now. He's been chatting with Johnny Phillips.

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Morgan, such a tense game, but to get the result, how does that feel?

293.141 - 308.497 Morgan Gibbs-White

Yeah, incredible. It wasn't a nice game. We knew it was going to be a battle, you know, just because of the position of the both teams. But what I like from the boys is that we didn't give up. We fought to the very end. And yeah, we got a penalty and luckily enough it went in this time.

Chapter 4: What were the turning points in the game for Nottingham Forest?

455.167 - 468.347 Unknown

Well, that's the biggest boost, to be seven points clear after that match. Going into it, you could feel the tension, you could feel that in the performance from both sets of players. It was far from a classic, but so much riding on it, the difference it could have been.

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468.808 - 482.929 Unknown

One point if West Ham win, seven points now for Nottingham Forest, and they have to kick on FA Cup at the weekend, and then they've got Arsenal. So it was a huge, huge night tonight, and Maughan Gibbs-White steps up late on with a crucial penalty that gets them the victory.

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483.044 - 485.427 Michael Dawson

You're a West Ham player in the dressing room now. How are you feeling?

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485.828 - 505.495 Unknown

Oh, that's it. You're feeling crestfallen. You don't know where your next point's going to come from. That seven points feels monumental. When it's always one game, if it's within three points, you feel like you've got a chance. It's three games. It's three wins on the bounce. They haven't had that all season. You're looking and saying, where's your next result coming from?

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505.535 - 517.171 Unknown

Where's the answer coming from? Where's the momentum from any new signings that are going to come in for the rest of the season? Are they going to come now? When they look at the league table, There's no good answers right now.

517.531 - 523.318 Michael Dawson

OK, then. Well, let's hear from one of the players that is going to be in that dressing room, Tomas Suček. He's been speaking with Jonny Philips.

525.941 - 528.824 Unknown

Tomas, does that feel like a very difficult defeat to explain?

528.884 - 544.422 Tomas Soucek

Yeah, sure. We wanted to win. We were winning in the half-time. It was so close to be 2-0 and I think we would get all three points, but we lost the game and it's so tough for us because we know where we are on the position.

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In terms of the start to the game, was that exactly what you needed? Do you feel you improved significantly from what happened at the weekend?

Chapter 5: How did West Ham's performance impact their relegation battle?

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The goal for Nottingham Forest seemed to give them a lot of confidence. Did you lose confidence in that moment as a team?

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580.183 - 602.826 Tomas Soucek

Yes, as I said, when we scored the second and were disallowed and in a few minutes we conceded for the draw, it was tough for us and Nottingham Forest had all joy at that moment for 10, 20 minutes. We just wanted to keep going because I believed that we would score the winning goal and then it was the opposite.

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602.806 - 610.057 Unknown

It came down to a VAR decision with the penalty, asking the referee to go and have a look at the monitor. What was your view of that penalty?

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610.879 - 631.21 Tomas Soucek

For me, it's a joke because I just saw it. Obviously, we can have 20 penalties per game if it's like that. I came to the Premier League because I thought it was the toughest league in the world and we are all fighters, warriors, but this looks more like basketball because you can't touch the player. That's what I saw, but it's only my opinion.

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And how is Alphonse Areola in the dressing room?

634.134 - 647.489 Tomas Soucek

Yeah, he's the same, he didn't know who was fouled, he just went for the ball and I think I cleared it and that was already out and we didn't know why it was VAR and then there was the penalty, so that was really tough for all of us.

648.23 - 656.32 Unknown

How tough is it at the moment for this squad because you're desperately in need of this win and your closest competitor has now gone three points ahead of you?

656.3 - 677.89 Tomas Soucek

Yeah, I know what position it is and this is not anymore like time for like something nice, some nice words that we have so many games, but we have to do like from the first game, now it's Tottenham and that's the game, yeah, we have to be winning because we need to win a few games in a row.

677.91 - 691.299 Tomas Soucek

It's not like, I know that seven points and it's not like, okay, we win two games, but we have to win a few games in a row. I still believe, obviously I will believe until the end, but I have to say that we are in a really bad position.

Chapter 6: What were the players' reactions to the match outcome?

1210.559 - 1213.937 Nuno Espirito Santo

but nothing to say about the hard work of the boys today.

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1214.693 - 1218.639 Unknown

We'll go to the end, really, because that was the key moment. What was your view of that penalty decision?

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1219.4 - 1232.681 Nuno Espirito Santo

We had a lot. It happened so many times during the matches that we get confused about the rules, honestly. So many times this has happened and not being given penalties, so we cannot quite understand.

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1233.201 - 1238.049 Unknown

As a former goalkeeper yourself, you looked at Areola there and maybe thought there was nothing he could do differently?

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1238.209 - 1247.792 Nuno Espirito Santo

He goes for the ball, there's Thomas... So Cech takes the ball out and then he cannot stop his movement, so it's hard to explain.

1248.233 - 1255.481 Unknown

You said there were a lot of good things about that performance and I imagine the way the team started and got control early and got a goal early must have pleased you a lot.

1255.501 - 1279.081 Nuno Espirito Santo

Yeah, that was the idea and the boys did it. We had good combinations, we controlled, we had the threat in attack. It was a good first half and we started pretty well the second half. I insist, there's a fault on the edge of the box that leads then. to Forrest going out on some reveal, so this takes the mind out of the players and makes it hard to explain how things happen.

1279.582 - 1289.679 Unknown

There were such close margins as you touched on, it went from possibly 2-0 to then 1-1. In that moment, do you feel the players lost a bit of confidence and lost a bit of that character they had?

1290.059 - 1302.243 Nuno Espirito Santo

No, no, no, they keep fighting, they keep till the end. We knew that... how important this match was and the boys did until the end. We had chances. It didn't go to us today.

Chapter 7: How did the penalty decision affect team morale?

1495.018 - 1511.308 Michael Dawson

Do you think he's had enough time at West Ham, Nuno Espirito Santo? Because it's quite an interesting time of the season, isn't it? Midway point of the season. We've already seen two managers from the top six gone in Enzo Maresca at Chelsea and, of course, Ruben Amorim at Manchester United. Do those situations actually heighten the pressure?

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1511.288 - 1528.953 Unknown

I mean, when you're in a relegation battle and you're sitting third bottom and you're a loser to a team that you think you're going to be competing against. In his 16 games, he's won two Premier League games. That is going to bring pressure. That is going to bring scrutiny. Look, he needs bodies in. Malik Dufi's away. Wan-Bissaka's away. So he needs them. He's brought two centre-forwards in.

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1529.233 - 1543.825 Unknown

But he has to try and find some belief. And when you are rock bottom, You are low. It was a response tonight from that disappointing performance against Wolves at the weekend. And I thought they were very unfortunate to get something out of the game. There's nothing between the two teams. A couple of decisions gone either way.

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But that's the kind of thing that happens when you're in a relegation battle and things are going bad for you. One thing you can't do is feel sorry for yourself. You roll your sleeves up, you stick together. Tomas Suchek came out and said, we're behind Nuno, we stick together. That's all you can do. And you can fight and go to the next one. Next one is QPR.

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1561.248 - 1580.91 Unknown

And then the one after that is Tottenham Hotspur. Big derby. And you've just got to try and galvanise each other. No good feeling sorry for yourself. These have been big trouble because the gap is getting bigger. In those 16 games, they conceded 30 goals. Yeah. And you're going to say, what's Nuno about? Defensive stability, solidity. It's not there. It's not there right now.

1581.833 - 1587.111 Unknown

You know, you're saying he's not come up with an answer yet. He's not come up with his answer.

1587.53 - 1601.171 Michael Dawson

Why do you think that might be? Because when you look at the next couple of fixtures that they're going to have coming up for them, you mentioned it there, Michael, about the fact that Thomas Suchek is well and truly behind them. You need the players behind you, especially when you have this run of fixtures going up.

1601.271 - 1612.288 Michael Dawson

Tottenham Hotspur away, Sunderland, Chelsea, Burnley, Manchester United, Bournemouth, Liverpool. Who knows what's going to happen for his future? But does he need to change something now, Nuno Espirito Santo?

1612.876 - 1632.07 Unknown

He hasn't got a lot to change to. That's realistic. And you look at the four that have come before. I looked and there was a big moment where he had Fulham, Brighton, Wolves and Nottingham Forest bleeding into these. And he's got one point from them four games before this. And then you go Spurs, Sunderland, Chelsea, Burnley. You're looking going... where's the next wing going to come from?

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