Chapter 1: What was the significance of Obiang's goal at Wembley?
A Wembley shot here. Oh, what a shot! It's an absolute stunner. Son tries his luck. They have replied in kind. It's another Wembley spectacular.
two fantastic strikes which lit up a game which drifted at times as it became really attack against defence for long long periods 31 attempts from Spurs the most in a game this season but just eight of those were on target and that effort from Obiang the only one on target from West Ham tonight but for them it was well worth the wait his third In the claret and blue.
From memory, the other two weren't quite like that. Let's get his reaction to it. He's with Mark Noble and both are speaking to Guy Havard.
Mark, Pedro, many congratulations. I'm sure it's a point you would have taken beforehand. Is there just a tinge of disappointment maybe that it's not another Wembley win for the Hammers?
In all honesty, no. You go 1-0 up here, they had some good chances, I thought we defended incredibly well. Two games in three days is tough. A lot of players played 90 minutes on Tuesday night.
but if you was going to give us a point here, we've seen the teams they've played here recently, Southampton, even Stoke, they're good sides, tough sides, and Spurs have rolled them over, and tonight I thought the boys defended fantastically.
Pedro, Wembley's seen some great goals. Talk us through yours.
I think it's arriving in the right timing, but everything is happening because we defend really well. We keep the goal on zero, and in that situation, I've seen the possibility, I try, and I'm scoring, so I was really lucky.
It was your first shot on goal, not for you, but for the whole team. Were you aware of that?
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Chapter 2: How did West Ham defend against Tottenham's attacks?
You know, it took a worldie, didn't it, in the end? Well, it did.
But will West Ham look at that as mission accomplished? They set out to plan.
Absolutely. David Moyes would know he'd have to ride his luck. He'd need the goalkeeper to play well. He'd need Tottenham to not be clinical. And he got all of that tonight. 31 shots at goal. is a massive target for anyone to show that they were far better, Tottenham. But we know that. The league position suggests that. It is a poor result for Tottenham. They need to win them sort of games.
Now it's Burnley at home, Swansea at home, West Ham. They've dropped points against teams. West Brom as well made it very difficult.
It's games like that you need to be clinical and need to take maximum points if you want to be in the top four because come the end of January, early start of February, playing Manchester United, Arsenal and Liverpool, and they're the games, especially away from home, where they've struggled to win. So, yes, they're unlucky tonight not to come away with maximum points. I have to say that.
But I would credit West Ham because David Moyes will be delighted, obviously well-drilled, well-organised and willing to put their bodies on the line and perform for them West Ham fans who travelled here tonight.
And, of course, part of the plan was for Obiang to smash it in from 25 yards. What was he doing at the pitch? That was the question that Mark Nova was asking.
Yeah, well, he didn't venture anywhere near there, did he, until this. And for them to get their first shot in the 70th minute shows how deep they were playing. I mean, we couldn't believe it, because he just hit it lovely. It's actually gone through the centre-arse legs there and it's just gone straight in. It was lovely, wasn't it? It was lovely. He took it out of his feet.
I think Tottenham are thinking, go on, have a shot. You know, you get a bit lazy there and you don't want to shut him down. He's gone and put it through and he's unbelievable, really.
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Chapter 3: What were the reactions from players after the match?
And it really, it's one of them goals when you're here, it silenced the crowd, didn't it? No one could quite believe it. And it set the tone. And I thought straight away, Tottenham responded very well after this as well to come back into the game because it looked like West Ham had stifled them for the first 70 minutes and it was going to be an easy to stop them scoring for an extra 20.
And the equaliser came from Heung-Min Son, who's speaking now with Guy.
Son, what's the mood like in the Tottenham dressing room after that draw?
I think upset everyone for the result. Of course it's upset, we can't be happy with the result, but I think we played very well and I think we deserved to get three points, which is a little bit unlucky for tonight. You had a couple of shouts for penalties, do you think you should have got one? I don't know, it's difficult to see on the pitch, It was so quick.
Sometimes you feel like in the game you get a penalty, but sometimes it's difficult to say for me. I don't know. I didn't see the highlights or the replay, but I think we were a little bit unlucky for tonight.
We saw two wonderful goals tonight. Were you inspired at all by what Obiang did?
I think his goal was better, the strike was just unbelievable. We are the best keeper in the world and he can't do nothing, it was just a great strike. Honestly, after 1-0 for us it was a bit difficult, but we still keep working really hard, we show our mentality, how good we are, and I think what I say, it's just a bit unlucky.
Was that your best Tottenham goal?
It's not important right now. It was a beautiful goal, but I think it's not important to a beautiful goal or a dirty goal. It's not important. I'm a bit upset for the three points.
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Chapter 4: What did Son say about the mood in the Tottenham dressing room?
Needs to come and put some pressure on, but the strike is fantastic.
Do you think there's real purpose about it, where he's actually putting it?
Yeah, I mean, if you look at that, that is a foul. I mean, he's not in control of himself. And then it was just easy after this, just moved the ball, worked it out of the field, and West Ham got deep. They got very, very deep, and he just got enough space on, didn't he, to do this. Takes a good touch. And he knows exactly what he's going to do now, and he cuts across it, Joe, doesn't he?
He cuts across it with his right foot, and it's almost like a fade in golf, you know. It's a wonderful strike into the top corner.
In fairness to Mark Noble there, I think the position of Eriksen affects him. The lesser of the evils really. Do you want Son to strike it from there, or do you want him to slide it to Eriksen, who's five yards from you, closer to goal? Obviously, we didn't expect Son to hit it, so in fairness to Mark there, he's worried about Eriksen.
But that's what this Tottenham team, different from seven, eight years ago, is they've got four or five players who can hurt you. And so you can't just worry about Kane because it's Ali, Son's an excellent player, Eriksen, the threat comes from everywhere. That's why they are where they are and threatening at the top end of the league.
And he's potent right now, six in nine. But a closer look at that incident, Tim, that we've seen there in the build-up to it. Does he not actually get the ball, though?
He does get the ball, but he's endangering an opponent. He's not in control of his body. He slides. It could easily be a foul. He wins the ball cleanly. So VAR, that comes on Wednesday. We come back and the goal's disallowed then, in your view. I said it was a foul. I think Joe said it wasn't. I mean, well, we've all got a different opinion. Why not?
With a VAR situation, I think what will come back to that is you look at it, in slow motion, he wins the ball. But when we all looked at it, didn't we, in open play, and he was reckless, and if Lanzini catches his studs there, he could do him seriously damage.
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Chapter 5: How did David Moyes feel about West Ham's performance?
But nothing to say about the effort, because after 48 hours to play and run in the way that the team ran and the effort was massive. Congratulations to the players. Of course, disappointed with the result, but keep going.
West Ham's goal, goal in a million, but even as a coach, do you look upon it critically at all or just say that was a one-off?
I didn't see it on the TV now. I saw it on the pitch. I think it was an amazing goal. It was the first shoot on target. That is difficult to accept, but that is football. Difficult for us, we created a lot of chance, but we were clinical in front of the goal and that you pay on the end. But keep going, a lot of positive things, more positive than negative, of course.
And sometimes football happens and we need to be ready again to play Sunday.
Kane had a shout for a penalty, also Ali as well from the goalkeeper, Adrian. How did you see those?
Yes, that is normally this game, maybe should be finished three, four, five, one. But it was Southampton, but it wasn't like this. We were in clinical in front of the goal and that is football. We need to accept that and keep going.
Did you think there were penalties?
I didn't see. I cannot say nothing because from my position it's too difficult to see. But I'm not going to say nothing about the referee. I think it's important to trust in them.
today wasn't for us and the decision maybe was right from the referee and I think we need to be focusing and try to help the team and try to be critics in our game and try to improve for the next time in games like this try to be more clinical in front of the goal.
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Chapter 6: What were the key moments that led to the draw?
You're doing it the other way, don't you? Absolutely, but this is a penalty. I mean, Adrian, that's offside. first and foremost, so it shouldn't be a question. But there, well, Dele makes contact and he just takes him out. He just punches him in the head. I mean, that for me is a nailed-on penalty. He should have been offside, so he shouldn't have got this far.
But as he heads the ball, he takes him out. Anywhere else on the pitch, that's a late tackle.
Goalkeepers get protected, don't they? You know, they do get away with murder in them situations. But I think Hadrian's usually a very composed goalkeeper. I think he's always dropping in his six-yard box. And sometimes goalkeepers, if he felt like he had to go when he wasn't really ever going to get there, Dele had the jump on him. So it probably could have been a penalty down.
What's refreshing, though, is you see Mauricio there. He's not coming out looking for excuses. He's not gone in there and looked at a video and finding excuses for his team. He's saying, we're not clinical enough tonight. And he's right. You know, we're fed up with listening to managers keep coming out, looking for excuses, deflect away from the result. He's not trying to do that.
He's saying referees made the decisions. Tonight they haven't gone for us. We're not clinical enough. And he blames collectively. And then move on.
And he'll be hugely disappointed with two drop points. If this was earlier in the season, Tim, we might be talking about the Wembley problem. Because it's now, that point leaves him just three points outside the top four. Should we just see this as a blip, do you think?
Yeah, I think so. I think the way they perform, look, we looked at how many shots on goal they had, 31 shots at goal, only eight on target. They want to improve on that. But as we've seen previously when they come here and beat Southampton, they're capable of scoring a lot of goals at the right times. They've got big games coming up.
Like I said, end of January, early February, they need to win these games against the teams in and around them for that top four. Well, there you go. Manchester United, Liverpool, Arsenal in a little run there. And a back-to-back, all of them. And then you've got the Juventus Champions League game shortly after the Arsenal game. They'll have a big eye on that, won't they?
Huge, because Arsenal haven't got the Champions League, have they? So it's a huge game.
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Chapter 7: What are Tottenham's challenges moving forward this season?
They're away. No one's catching them at the moment. The way they're playing, they've been fantastic. Champions League will be a very difficult one to win. To finish in the Champions League spot in top four, I believe top five this year because I think an English team will win the Premier League, win the Champions League. So I think there might be an extra spot there.
But that would be a success for them. If they can win a trophy, if they can progress, they play Wimbledon on Sunday in the FA Cup. The Carabao Cup would have been good enough. These fans want to come and see the captain lift the trophy, and I think now's time. They need to move on, and I think that would help them keep a lot of players at the football club as well.
How hard is that, Joe, when you're part of a squad, part of a team that is trying to compete in all these different fronts and win all these different trophies in the same season?
It's very difficult. I think we were talking the other day. You play the whole season and it's seven, eight months. It all comes down to April, May, where you are. These sort of December months and January and February, you're jostling away. You're trying to stay in cups. Performances are not that important. It's results. And you get into like... April, May, and that's when the business starts.
And that's when, you know, Tottenham have traditionally been a cup team. So you can't rule them out winning the Champions League. I don't think you can rule any of the teams out of winning the Champions League from England because of the strength that all of our teams are. Anyone can win that. But like Tim was saying, the league's definitely gone. Man City have got that.
And if an English team does win it, then it opens up another space. But Tottenham fans need... Pochettino's been praised a lot, and these young players have been praised a lot over the last few years. They have to start delivering silverware to keep them all together and keep them at the club and keep the project going.
If not, if I'm Harry Kane or Dele Alli, I'm looking round and thinking, well, if I can't win things here... then I want to go somewhere else to do it because you get one career.
And that's the next challenge for Tottenham moving forward. Down at the bottom, every single point is priceless. Here's the West Ham manager, David Moyes, whose team got one tonight with Guy Havard.
David, how proud are you by your team's performance to leave here with a point? I'm thrilled to come away from a point from here because, you know, I think I watch Spurs a lot and I think they've got really good players, really, really exciting young talent. And, you know, I've seen them win fives here and fours here and beat Real Madrid here.
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Chapter 8: What does the future hold for West Ham under David Moyes?
It was in the plan from minute one to go ahead. But, you know... I've seen quite a few teams come here and open up, and I've not had the best results. They scored a screamer as well, but you seemed to be unhappy in the build-up, is that right?
Yeah, I thought Lanzini had been fouled, and actually if you look at the area he scores the goal from, I think Lanzini would have been in that area to defend it, but I've had a look at it and the referee got the decision right and it wasn't a foul.
So many positives to take out from the game a couple of days ago and here today. Transfer windows open. What's happened in the last couple of days? Does it affect your thinking at all?
No, it doesn't affect my thinking. The club, I'm only here for seven or eight weeks, so the club should have an idea of what's required as well. I think the big thing is to make sure we try and get away from the bottom end of the table. We don't want to fall back in, and I do think we need some extra players.
We're short, we're quite well endowed in some areas, like up front we've got a lot of players to choose from, but we don't have it in other areas, so we'd like to try and balance that if possible. But it's not always possible. Do you feel that you're ahead of perhaps where you thought you'd be when you arrived at this point?
I think with the batch of games I had when I came, I thought, you know, these look really difficult and where are we going to be at the end of it? And when I came into the club, we were in the bottom three and we've only just got out and there's a long, long way to go.
So if we keep playing like that and trying to play better when we play other teams, then hopefully we'll do enough to make sure we're not at the bottom. Well done tonight. Cheers, thank you.
They've had big results. beating Chelsea, point against Arsenal, point here against Spurs tonight and now they stand in 15th but only two points still above the bottom three in such a congested bottom half of the table. Do you think, Joe, they can afford to start looking up the table?
I think what David said there, when he came into the club and you look at the recent run of games that they've had, to get the points that they've got out of them, they've done very well and they've done it with a structure, they've done it with organisation and they've done it with a defensive mindset. These next four or five games they've got
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