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Sky Sports Premier League Podcast

Off Script: Souness' Old Firm memories

29 Aug 2019

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Chapter 1: What are Graeme Souness' first impressions of the new stadium?

0.487 - 11.8 Patrick Davison

Hello everyone, thanks for joining us for the latest Offscript, where Graeme Souness has been good enough to join us. And Graeme, this is the first Super Sunday in this stadium, and I think the first time you've been here. What do you make of it?

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15.204 - 19.93 Graeme Souness

Spectacular. I would go as far to say it's the best football stadium I've ever been in.

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20.631 - 20.931 Patrick Davison

Anywhere?

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21.231 - 37.356 Graeme Souness

Anywhere, yeah. OK, it's the newest, latest. I've not seen it with anyone in here, so I'm not sure what atmosphere will be created. That depends on how the home team are playing, of course. But I think... First thoughts, yes, sensational.

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38.177 - 44.606 Patrick Davison

I've wanted to ask you this for a while. In a TV studio, for those of us who don't go into one, which includes me, what is it like?

46.249 - 47.47 Graeme Souness

In terms of?

48.392 - 57.905 Patrick Davison

Just the atmosphere, particularly when it's maybe a big moment, like a big manager's under pressure and maybe it gets that little bit adversarial. I just wonder how you're thinking and feeling.

58.065 - 75.875 Graeme Souness

Yeah, I mean, obviously the bigger the games, the more I think we all get excited about them. Tension like when you played or not? No, no. But there's always a backstory, isn't there? You're turning up with thoughts about how it might go, who's going to be under pressure, who's going to be the star of the show.

75.915 - 101.446 Graeme Souness

So you're turning up with some thoughts going on in your head, but very rarely turns out the way you anticipate. I think we do a great job. I think the way we deal with the big moments, I think we do that better than anybody else. We've got some very talented young men and ladies working our business now. And I like to think we've got on a fantastic show most of the time. But the game gees us up.

Chapter 2: How does the atmosphere in a TV studio compare to being on the pitch?

153.323 - 159.452 Graeme Souness

the sort of form coming into the games. But I think in the 90 minutes, a lot of it is what I see.

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160.534 - 167.845 Patrick Davison

So the latest instalment of the Old Firm derby almost upon us. Just tell us about your first introduction to that game.

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169.327 - 190.409 Graeme Souness

Well, fortunately, when I was up there, I was there five years and we were bossing it for four years. And Celtic won it the one year with Billy McNeill in charge. You know, I got criticised, greatly criticised, for saying, well, I don't care if we lose to Celtic up as long as we win the league. That did not go down well. And did you view change on that? Oh, yeah.

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191.67 - 208.086 Graeme Souness

After the first ten minutes of the very first Old Firm game. But my thinking was, as long as we end up winning the league, as long as we get our hands on the cup at the end of it, I don't mind taking a few blows along the way. But then you do get it. These games are so much. And it generally leads to you winning the league if you win these.

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208.066 - 227.892 Graeme Souness

and it's not just the points that you get on the day for winning it. What I found was you could be playing the best football, But you're second in the league because you've drawn a daft game. You might have had someone sent off. A lot of the time it was me getting sent off. For whatever reason, you didn't win that game, so you're going into an old firm game and you're second.

228.292 - 247.716 Graeme Souness

And all the pressure's on you, although you might have been playing the best football out of the two teams. It's all about winning these games, staying top, because if you're top, the pressure is off you. All the focus is on the... whoever is second. And that pressure sometimes leads to indifferent performances from the team and individuals. So it's all about being first up there.

248.137 - 256.048 Graeme Souness

The focus is off you. It's all about the second team can't afford to slip up again. And that's why these games are so important. You've got to be winning them.

256.268 - 266.102 Patrick Davison

So when you went there, you were a seriously experienced football man. And wasn't the first game like a charity game? But even didn't that take you a little by surprise? Oh, that was...

266.082 - 290.706 Graeme Souness

I'd been announced before the end of one season, and there was a Glasgow Cup final, which was between Rangers and Celtic, if my memory serves me well, and that was full-on, a game that shouldn't have been full-on. That was my first introduction to it, and it made me realise how important these games were to the supporters.

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