Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Well, we've done a number of these Offscripts and they've been great fun so far. But this really is something different. Distinctly Offscript. Possibly the most famous sporting family from Manchester or Bury. Depends which way you look at it. And there are very, very few families that say that all three children represented their country.
So I'm delighted to welcome, well, I would say welcome Gary, but I feel I've spoken to him more than ever these days. So Gary's just kind of out there somewhere.
Chapter 2: What makes the Neville family one of the most famous sporting families?
But particularly, good afternoon to Phil and Tracey Neville as well. Good afternoon, all of you. Good afternoon, Geoff. First of all, the most important question is how... Tracey, I'll start with you. How are you?
I'm good, Jeff. I'm enjoying my mat leave. Got all the country enjoying it with me at the moment. And yeah, just taking up a little bit of space in my personal life, really. It's good. Enjoying it. And it's good that they've isolated us so I don't have to see these two on a regular basis. So it's a win-win for me.
Phil, how is it for you? Because obviously you've got a squad to maintain and stay in touch with. How difficult is it if you just operationally being manager of England women's team under these circumstances?
Well, I think we were in New York when it broke two and a half weeks ago. So we were isolated when we were in New York. So when we came back, we were fully aware of the severity of it. And I think the first week we've sort of like give them a little bit of breathing space and then they got into their training programs and we've been doing a lot of sort of like virtual
video calls and I think the last probably three or four days is probably a little bit of a mental brick wall in terms of the training so we've had to find really innovative ways to keep them entertained engaged and I've got to say it's the most important thing is that everyone's safe and everyone stays away from this virus I think the training and the football is secondary really but we have had to be really innovative in the way that we've engaged with them
Now, so we don't talk over each other, we'll go in order of seniority in these sibling rivalry stakes. In Gary, obviously, senior. And then older of Tracy and Bill. Is Tracy, I'm right in saying?
Yeah.
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Chapter 3: How do the Neville siblings handle sibling rivalry in sports?
Such a bad quality, innit?
Philip used to occupy the crease, the old Jeff Boycott analogy. He'd stay there, he would stay there for hours at a time. It was tedious.
And that's not fair, Phil, because I know the famous quote, Michael Vaughan said the best cricketer he ever played against was Phil Neville.
Yeah, horrible, isn't it? I mean, no, but to be fair, I was an opening batter. And Gary was like... It was you, Gary. He was like Ian Boltham, Freddie Flintoff. He used to come in and crash-bang wallop and get himself out and cost us a game sometimes. So I was more cultured and kept the ball on the floor. But no, I think...
Even though we didn't probably see that much of Tracy playing, we were always interested in her.
Didn't they used to call you Padrash? You were called Padrash at one point, Phil, because you were in that long.
OK, again, trying to keep some order and discipline here, which has got absolutely no chance. How much do you think the fact, you know, your dad... the late, great Nev was a gifted cricketer himself, who played to a very, very good standard, and obviously Mum with netball and rounders.
How much do you think your own successes in sport is down to genetics and also the encouragement of your parents and also being brought up in a sporting household?
Yeah, I mean, it wasn't just... I mean, our parents obviously just completely committed their lives to us in terms of taking us everywhere. But it wasn't just our parents, it was our grandparents as well. My mum was one of my dad in particular who would take us places.
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Chapter 4: What impact did their parents have on the Neville siblings' athletic careers?
When you text him, I text him a picture of, like, Ned, and he'll go, thanks, Tracy.
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Thanks, Tracey. Jeff, bring Nev in. Nev's Tracey's little baby, for those of you who don't know.
Bring him in. Hang on. No, he's asleep. I know he's asleep, so hang on. We'll get to him. Before we get to Nev, before we get to Nev, of course, probably, as per usual, and completely wrongly, this chat has already been dominated by the boys' career. Tracey herself... had a fantastic career, not only managed England, of course, but over 80 caps for her country as well.
How proud were you two of Tracy's sporting achievement? And also, in the same way as you were progressing in your careers at your clubs, how aware were you of how far Tracy was going?
Philip?
Well, we were definitely aware. I was 100% definitely aware. The problem probably 15 years ago was the visibility of netball. You very rarely saw netball on TV. And because our schedules clashed, we only ever went to watch netball when our schedules didn't clash.
And I think if I look back at probably the most nervous moments I've ever had, think about the times I watched Tracy play at the GMEX in Manchester or the arena for her when she was a player for England. And then when she was a coach, it was unbearable sometimes. I mean, she won the league for her club, Manchester Thunder in the last kick of it, last shot of the game. Unbelievable moment.
And then the Commonwealth Games success, I'll never forget. One of my best moments probably in my sporting life, watching that, the celebrations afterwards, obviously going out to Australia for the world to watch her out there was an unbelievable moment, even though it was probably one of the saddest moments of our lives.
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